There has been some good advice given in this thread. I have heard that a foreigner can inexpensively buy a Chilean bike in one of their free trade zones.

I still think the Grey Market option is the best one. Kito, already commented about how this method is done. Note: The Hubb does not endorse this method and I am not recommending it. The buyer and seller usually cross a local border together. Before crossing the border, the buyer borrows the sellers original title, registration, and Temporary Import Permit. He photoshops the sellers name, DL# and address and swaps his own in for them. He then makes good color copies of the paperwork. The seller and the buyer usually ride together on the bike and cross the border into the neighboring country. The Buyer uses his set of paperwork and gets an exit stamp for the bike and himself in his passport. Note: if your passport is brand spanking new than you don't want to try this most likely. It would be a better idea to rack up some stamps crossing local borders and make it look like you have been traveling in the area for a bit.

I watched my Australian friend sell his Canadian KLR to a Polish guy in Mendoza, Argentina this way. They crossed the border into Chile together and completed the sale this way.

I think it is important that you make the deal contingent upon the seller successfully crossing into the next country with you. Offer him a ride back but don't give him any money until you have good paperwork.


Another, less grey market option would be for you and the seller to have a Power of Attorney made up by a local lawyer which allows you to use his property for some good reason (he was injured, family illness, serving active duty, etc) but the seller might not be comfortable with the liability involved with a power of attorney. Also, I heard of someone who successfully used a Power of Attorney to cross borders but I think it would be difficult in a few countries and with a few personalities.

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Peru would appear to be the hardest to get into as since 2012 they apear to have clamped down on crossing from Chile/Bolivia when the owner is not with the vehicle

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Can it be more legally? Like this:
Is it good option for changing owner in the title (write new owner in the bottom part) of the USA-registered bike behind the borders?
I mean next: you cross the first border with a previous owner when he is a driver. Then you put to the title new owner and cross the next border when driver is you. Does any problem with PIT? I should to have stamps of me and of the bike?

To join in with the discussion
after looking through this and all the other threads I could see on the wonderful HUBB and elsewhere as far as can see for those wanting to buy off another traveler there seem to be 3 options

1/ Fudging the paperwork into your name (see others posts- mixed opinions on whether this is advisable, strong opinions against; some folk seem to have no problems but don't want to openly advocate for obvious reasons)

2/ Crossing border with the seller and sorting paperwork this way (grey market- not generally advisable. seems to share risk between seller/buyer)

3. getting a notary to transfer ownership and keeping original paperwork- some folk state no problems as some borders and some state would not be let into some countries ( e.g peru seems to be strict with this)

This is all based on other opinions and NONE of my first hand experience. As have yet to set off.
Personally it seems using a notary and then potentially some backed up documents in a new name in case any problems


Has any one had experiencing using these paperwork to cross borders?

I personally will be trying to go through Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Argentina y Brazil. Starting in Colombia. Keen to know if this would work!

Thanks

DR11 As one who has resided in South America and posted here for the last ten years or so, I have always advocated the safest and most secure route for the transfer of title for motorcycles in South America, I applaud you for your due diligence and polite manner.

Grant - our benevolent HU benefactor has granted lee way for the posting of creative title transfer processes in South America - and he is the authority.

Therefore, while not endorsing either one , two or three, of your very perceptive analysis, I would say that if you can find a legally operating notary , with up to date credentials, oh yeah there are many "unofficial" notaries operating throughout South America, who is willing to "transfer ownership" of a foreign registered bike having entered a South American country on a TVIP, you will have a fall back position - in the event of future problems. You can always claim that you sought legal advice and were misled....

I admire your willingness to explore, question and be creative in order to accomplish your title transfer. I also wish you success in your endeavor and look forward to your future posts.

If you are successful, and manage to effect the title transfer legally, you will be setting a long sought after precedent here. Please continue to post here.

Thank you for your efforts and sharing with us. When you arrive Buenos Aires, rosa del desierto and I would like to invite you for a and introduce you to Argentine friends. Mucha suerte amigo.

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PS: When dealing verbally with border officials, it is always better to get each opinion in writing with a name and identity attached. I have verbally received more than 5 distinct answers when asking 5 South American border officials one simple question. If you get a variety of answers, and you most likely will, simply choose the most common answer. If it is a tie, keep asking the question. Keep notes with the names and identities and this too will be an invaluable fall back position if you encounter problems in the future.

D11,
You might want to visit:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...tes-zona-84884

Sojourning Mendicant seems to have a workable plan. He will be posting
regarding his success in transferring the seller's TVIP in country soon.

Sojourning Mendicant is very determined, studious and has documented consistent opinions from various authorities.

Way to go Sojourning Mendicant!!!

xfiltrate