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thing is I´m not the person focused only on the typical bucket list sights ... my main intention is to have just a good time over there with my bike strolling around and get in contact with the locals and the land
Jonas
I know you have friends in Australia and a lot of people will disagree with what I’m going to say but, in my opinion, there is a lot of time wasting there.
There is a lot of nothing and it all looks pretty much the same ie the mountains in Victoria look the same as the mountains in NSW and Queensland. The coast is the same. You can be in a country town in WA and ride over 4K km to a country town in Queensland and the people will look, dress and sound the same. The architecture will be the same and so will the food - and that 4K km ride is a lot of nothingness on a 250 - at least I did it on a 500

I appreciate we’re spoiled in Europe and there’s no other continent with such diversity in close contact but to be in touch with locals and the land I would not choose one of the most baron, sparsely populated and richest countries in the world.

I don’t know your history, or where you’ve been already - but my choices for your kind of trip and time scale would be
Alaska to Patagonia.
Circumnavigation of Africa - perfect for a WRR
Through the Stans to Mongolia

Wishing you a great trip
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I know you have friends in Australia and a lot of people will disagree with what I’m going to say but, in my opinion, there is a lot of time wasting there.
There is a lot of nothing and it all looks pretty much the same ie the mountains in Victoria look the same as the mountains in NSW and Queensland. The coast is the same. You can be in a country town in WA and ride over 4K km to a country town in Queensland and the people will look, dress and sound the same. The architecture will be the same and so will the food - and that 4K km ride is a lot of nothingness on a 250 - at least I did it on a 500

I appreciate we’re spoiled in Europe and there’s no other continent with such diversity in close contact but to be in touch with locals and the land I would not choose one of the most baron, sparsely populated and richest countries in the world.

I don’t know your history, or where you’ve been already - but my choices for your kind of trip and time scale would be
Alaska to Patagonia.
Circumnavigation of Africa - perfect for a WRR
Through the Stans to Mongolia

Wishing you a great trip
Hey there

Thank you very much for contributing to the discussion.

I´m glad you brought this up because it made me reflect about the whole idea and what i want from it for myself again - and I came to the same conclusion again....

I try to explain

I read a lot - in general - and I have read like maybe 20 books which have been written by motorcyclists - went from early stuff like Ted Simon, Elspeth Beard onwards to Dan Walsh - Chris Scott of course - J Peter Thoemig .... and loads and loads of more up to date books written by German motorcycle travelers - covering multiyear RTW trips as well as multi month adventure stuff in certain regions or continents. Plus numerous blogs from all over the world documenting the travels of people just happening right now.

Yes - I also thought about the classic routes like Alaska to Patagonia, Africa or the Stans to Australia in the beginning.... but after reading all that reports it was clear to me that i want to go to the US, Canada, Alaska, and OZ because:

I will be traveling on my own - so for me it´s clear that I must speak the language of the country - why? - Because I just don´t want to end up alone in front of my tent or at the Bar, I don´t want to talk exclusively to other travelers I will meet - I want to be able to chat with the people living at the side of the road when I stop somewhere or when I need help etc. - I know you can get around the World by pointing at things you need - but that's just not the way I want to travel

.... and as English is the only language I can speak beside German - and knowing I will not be able to learn another one - up to a level where I can have real conversations - there are only English speaking country's left

Another thing I don´t want to do is a) the border dance and b) the roadside police checkpoint stuff - being at the mercy of corrupt or just mean people enjoying the power they have in the situation - with no possibility to achieve justice on my own is not a situation I want to be in during my holiday ...

Plus: I want to feel safe - I can´t imagine traveling an unstable region - knowing it can all be over because some crazy warlord went mental, or some random riot is closing borders and the whole route is not working out anymore at all.....

Some say stuff like this is part of the adventure adding some spice to the life on the road - but not for me

I am aware that for many people this will sound boring, conceited ... stuffy - But for my holiday I want to go to places where chances are high that I can have - a good time - no hassle - nice landscape - wild camping

That´s why I think the combination of the US, Canada, Alaska and OZ is just perfect - for me

Thank you very much for your wishes I will have a blog later to keep the forum updated

cheers Jonas
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Hey there

Thank you very much for contributing to the discussion.

I´m glad you brought this up because it made me reflect about the whole idea and what i want from it for myself again - and I came to the same conclusion again....

I try to explain

I read a lot - in general - and I have read like maybe 20 books which have been written by motorcyclists - went from early stuff like Ted Simon, Elspeth Beard onwards to Dan Walsh - Chris Scott of course - J Peter Thoemig .... and loads and loads of more up to date books written by German motorcycle travelers - covering multiyear RTW trips as well as multi month adventure stuff in certain regions or continents. Plus numerous blogs from all over the world documenting the travels of people just happening right now.

Yes - I also thought about the classic routes like Alaska to Patagonia, Africa or the Stans to Australia in the beginning.... but after reading all that reports it was clear to me that i want to go to the US, Canada, Alaska, and OZ because:

I will be traveling on my own - so for me it´s clear that I must speak the language of the country - why? - Because I just don´t want to end up alone in front of my tent or at the Bar, I don´t want to talk exclusively to other travelers I will meet - I want to be able to chat with the people living at the side of the road when I stop somewhere or when I need help etc. - I know you can get around the World by pointing at things you need - but that's just not the way I want to travel

.... and as English is the only language I can speak beside German - and knowing I will not be able to learn another one - up to a level where I can have real conversations - there are only English speaking country's left

Another thing I don´t want to do is a) the border dance and b) the roadside police checkpoint stuff - being at the mercy of corrupt or just mean people enjoying the power they have in the situation - with no possibility to achieve justice on my own is not a situation I want to be in during my holiday ...

Plus: I want to feel safe - I can´t imagine traveling an unstable region - knowing it can all be over because some crazy warlord went mental, or some random riot is closing borders and the whole route is not working out anymore at all.....

Some say stuff like this is part of the adventure adding some spice to the life on the road - but not for me

I am aware that for many people this will sound boring, conceited ... stuffy - But for my holiday I want to go to places where chances are high that I can have - a good time - no hassle - nice landscape - wild camping

That´s why I think the combination of the US, Canada, Alaska and OZ is just perfect - for me

Thank you very much for your wishes I will have a blog later to keep the forum updated

cheers Jonas
Hi Jonas
Thanks for the great reply - I wish you a fantastic trip
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