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Four months seems reasonable. I'd add roads in the Pyrenees, Dolomites and the Route des Grande Alpes to your route, give a wider berth to the Eastern Ukraine/Russian border area and consider a ferry directly from France to Ireland, doing whatever I wanted in the UK after that. The Atlantic Road gets interesting further North of your route but there's a lot of great sights on it as it is.

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Merhaba,
According to the map,some best colors of turkey seems outside..This is generally once in a life journey so I guess will be good to have your Turkey route as detailed below.Here goes my personal idea..

Nothing interesting in blacksea coastline except sumela monastry in trabzon..boring traffic ,many small towns and traffic lights..better take the road to south from samsun...Also ankara,being a capital city,is also boring and nothing interesting except some big museums..
After making georgia gate to samsun..
1-Samsun (fish restaurants) çorum (capital of hittites)ankara, aksaray (salt lake) cappadocia
2-Cappadocia,konya (center of sufism and mevlana),egridir lake.(old turkish natural life)
3-eğridir denizli,pamukkale(cotton castle! hot springs spa.)
4-Pamukkale-selçuk.(ephesus and st.mary hill here)
5-Selçuk,izmir,ayvalık,asos,babakale.(westernmost point of main asia continent and get your certificate by the headman of the vilage, Mr.Mustafa..nice small seaside village)
6-Asos,troy,çanakkale,galipoli.
7-gallipoli istanbul by the seaside.
8-9- mınımum 2 days to discover istanbul.
10-İstanbul-edirne-kapıkule gate.(just 2-3 hours)

tips..:
1-gas is most expensive here.now about 2 usd.per liter..many campsites and free camping areas availabe on this route..Salt lake,gallipoli anzac bay,etc.
2-several bikers festivals available in some cities during summer months and its a good opportunity for free entertainment,camping, and overall getting to know locals and the country better..Below are the photos for 2015-festival schedule and asia certificate..( I believe will be a good memory)

All the best.
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looks like a nice route to me! give us a shout when you hit the uk, i'm around i'll be able to put you in in Devon & possibly Liverpool too. Good luck with it fella
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looks like a nice route to me! give us a shout when you hit the uk, i'm around i'll be able to put you in in Devon & possibly Liverpool too. Good luck with it fella
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Thanks mate... A long way off, but yes will give a shout....if you are around.....

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Thanks mate... A long way off, but yes will give a shout....if you are around.....

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Merhaba,
According to the map,some best colors of turkey seems outside..This is generally once in a life journey so I guess will be good to have your Turkey route as detailed below.Here goes my personal idea..

Nothing interesting in blacksea coastline except sumela monastry in trabzon..boring traffic ,many small towns and traffic lights..better take the road to south from samsun...Also ankara,being a capital city,is also boring and nothing interesting except some big museums..
After making georgia gate to samsun..
1-Samsun (fish restaurants) çorum (capital of hittites)ankara, aksaray (salt lake) cappadocia
2-Cappadocia,konya (center of sufism and mevlana),egridir lake.(old turkish natural life)
3-eğridir denizli,pamukkale(cotton castle! hot springs spa.)
4-Pamukkale-selçuk.(ephesus and st.mary hill here)
5-Selçuk,izmir,ayvalık,asos,babakale.(westernmost point of main asia continent and get your certificate by the headman of the vilage, Mr.Mustafa..nice small seaside village)
6-Asos,troy,çanakkale,galipoli.
7-gallipoli istanbul by the seaside.
8-9- mınımum 2 days to discover istanbul.
10-İstanbul-edirne-kapıkule gate.(just 2-3 hours)

tips..:
1-gas is most expensive here.now about 2 usd.per liter..many campsites and free camping areas availabe on this route..Salt lake,gallipoli anzac bay,etc.
2-several bikers festivals available in some cities during summer months and its a good opportunity for free entertainment,camping, and overall getting to know locals and the country better..Below are the photos for 2015-festival schedule and asia certificate..( I believe will be a good memory)

All the best.
Hello Mehmet Zeki Avar

Thank you for the local knowledge regarding Turkey. I t is very much appreciated I now have it in my routes as an option.. 3000 kms from border to border....
Yes fuel is expensive over there I see... About $1.25 AUD per litre here....getting to know the locals is a big part of the trip to me....

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Merhaba,
According to the map,some best colors of turkey seems outside..This is generally once in a life journey so I guess will be good to have your Turkey route as detailed below.Here goes my personal idea..

Nothing interesting in blacksea coastline except sumela monastry in trabzon..boring traffic ,many small towns and traffic lights..better take the road to south from samsun...Also ankara,being a capital city,is also boring and nothing interesting except some big museums..
After making georgia gate to samsun..
1-Samsun (fish restaurants) çorum (capital of hittites)ankara, aksaray (salt lake) cappadocia
2-Cappadocia,konya (center of sufism and mevlana),egridir lake.(old turkish natural life)
3-eğridir denizli,pamukkale(cotton castle! hot springs spa.)
4-Pamukkale-selçuk.(ephesus and st.mary hill here)
5-Selçuk,izmir,ayvalık,asos,babakale.(westernmost point of main asia continent and get your certificate by the headman of the vilage, Mr.Mustafa..nice small seaside village)
6-Asos,troy,çanakkale,galipoli.
7-gallipoli istanbul by the seaside.
8-9- mınımum 2 days to discover istanbul.
10-İstanbul-edirne-kapıkule gate.(just 2-3 hours)

tips..:
1-gas is most expensive here.now about 2 usd.per liter..many campsites and free camping areas availabe on this route..Salt lake,gallipoli anzac bay,etc.
2-several bikers festivals available in some cities during summer months and its a good opportunity for free entertainment,camping, and overall getting to know locals and the country better..Below are the photos for 2015-festival schedule and asia certificate..( I believe will be a good memory)

All the best.
Hi Mehmet,
Can you put this route on Google map?
I hardly can not trace most of all places and also identfy more spectacular road
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I like your route, but consider extending further north along the coast of Norway. You're missing the beautiful Lofoten Islands, which is only a couple of days ride from Kristiansund. Actually, while you're there, you should go to the North Cape, but hey-ho - you can't get it all, I guess.
I've recently launched a non-commercial web site Ride Norway | All you need to know for your motorcycle trip to Norway for route suggestions, shoestring tips etc for riders visiting Norway. Maybe it'll be of some help.

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I like your route, but consider extending further north along the coast of Norway. You're missing the beautiful Lofoten Islands, which is only a couple of days ride from Kristiansund. Actually, while you're there, you should go to the North Cape, but hey-ho - you can't get it all, I guess.
I've recently launched a non-commercial web site Ride Norway | All you need to know for your motorcycle trip to Norway for route suggestions, shoestring tips etc for riders visiting Norway. Maybe it'll be of some help.

Have a GREAT trip!
Site bookmarked - thanks ! I rode up to North Cape in 2014 and will be heading back to Norway at some point in the next couple of years .......

But of course, if you travel in Norway the most important advice is

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Great! Send me a few piccies so I can post them on the site!
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Great! Send me a few piccies so I can post them on the site!
Loads of photos on my FB page here

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If you're interested in WWII sites, you will be passing not far from a couple of the biggest--Stalingrad and Kursk, in Russia, so you might want to check them out. Stalingrad in particular is really cool.

I would also recommend giving wider berth to the Ukrainian border areas near the Donbass. You probably wouldn't have any problems there, but there is a lot of stuff going on there and not much reason to venture into the area.
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I like your route, but consider extending further north along the coast of Norway. You're missing the beautiful Lofoten Islands, which is only a couple of days ride from Kristiansund. Actually, while you're there, you should go to the North Cape, but hey-ho - you can't get it all, I guess.
I've recently launched a non-commercial web site Ride Norway | All you need to know for your motorcycle trip to Norway for route suggestions, shoestring tips etc for riders visiting Norway. Maybe it'll be of some help.

Have a GREAT trip!
Thank you,

I would like to travel further north and may do so.. Depending on the weather ( mid to late June).. As I need to be starting the alps East Austria and heading west by late July. I have been transferring gps routes from John Hermanns " riding the alps and beyond" to my Basecamp.. I could spend weeks riding these magical roads..
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Four months seems reasonable. I'd add roads in the Pyrenees, Dolomites and the Route des Grande Alpes to your route, give a wider berth to the Eastern Ukraine/Russian border area and consider a ferry directly from France to Ireland, doing whatever I wanted in the UK after that. The Atlantic Road gets interesting further North of your route but there's a lot of great sights on it as it is.

John Hermann's book on Alpine Routes would be a valuable investment for you.

Hello Wildman

Ok.... well reasonable will do me. Yes I have quite a lot of roads plotted around the Dolomites & some around the Pyrenees, I will work on a few more.
Point taken on the wide berth Ukraine/Russian border...I would like to enter the Arctic Circle though realistically its a long way up there. I think I may turn at Kristiansund and head south east, you never know. i may just give it a go.. I am waiting for a delivery of more Michelin maps and Toby Ballentines "western Europe motorcycle journeys"..i have now added John Hermanns book as well...Thank you he seems like a "King of the Alps" Man

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ok.... Well reasonable will do me. Yes i have quite a lot of roads plotted around the dolomites & some around the pyrenees, i will work on a few more.
Point taken on the wide berth ukraine/russian border...i would like to enter the arctic circle though realistically its a long way up there. I think i may turn at kristiansund and head south east, you never know. I may just give it a go.. I am waiting for a delivery of more michelin maps and toby ballentines "western europe motorcycle journeys"..i have now added john hermanns book as well...thank you he seems like a "king of the alps" man

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