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I am thinking / planning a long distance endurance motorcycle ride around the world and I am seeking advice to see if I am crazy. I have a route that I am working on and want to see if I am missing something. My plan is to do this ride in 80 days or less. Below is my route. I have recently read that you can now ride through China with out a guide which really helps with my planning.

I am a long distance endurance / rally rider and ride over 50,000 miles a year and I have ridden over 700,000 miles in my lifetime. I compete in endurance rallies like the Iron Butt Rally and regularly ride 1500+ mile days in the USA where the roads are big and easy. I have ridden 3 12,000+ mile rides where the longest took 16 days and was 16,500 miles.

I am working on a RTW webpage and have some of my ideas and information there also. Greg Rice - Travel_Man - Round The World

Any and all comments are needed.

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I think you might need to re-check some of your distances. I checked one I know well,, Paris to Gibralter is just under 950 miles,not 700, and on European congested roads inc motorways, is likely to take you longer than your estimated time.
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I have recently read that you can now ride through China with out a guide which really helps with my planning.
I haven´t done China on my bike. And like you, I´ve seen this claim, that you could actually do it without a guide.

So, this is purely a guess. But to expect, that China has now opened up for foreign motorcyclists, and will be just about as easy to do, as any other country, would be an enormous mistake, I think. Much more likely, that you´re still dealing with a mountain of “red tape”, and your language barrier will be the size of the Great Wall of China. How to put all that on a tight schedule, I really don´t know. I also don´t know anybody, who have shipped a motorcycle out of Hong Kong. That could be interesting, to say the least.

Regarding shipping out of unusual places, maybe also check out this thread below:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...rplane-67087-4

(Note, that I don´t mean to put down your plans in any way, just pointing out a few things, and hoping that it will be helpful!)
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You can't ride/drive from morocco to Algeria, border is closed since 1994.

You should go though central Asia instead go straight through Russia. Trans Siberian road is boring only long straight lines all flat for 5000km
Thank you for this information. I did not know the border was closed there. I will need to change my plans.

I know the Trans Siberian road is boring but it is one of the roads I want to ride.
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I think you might need to re-check some of your distances. I checked one I know well,, Paris to Gibralter is just under 950 miles,not 700, and on European congested roads inc motorways, is likely to take you longer than your estimated time.
Thanks for the catch. It was Barcelona that was 700 miles. I left out that stop and forgot to add back in Gibraltar. I am updating my route list.
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I haven´t done China on my bike. And like you, I´ve seen this claim, that you could actually do it without a guide.

So, this is purely a guess. But to expect, that China has now opened up for foreign motorcyclists, and will be just about as easy to do, as any other country, would be an enormous mistake, I think. Much more likely, that you´re still dealing with a mountain of “red tape”, and your language barrier will be the size of the Great Wall of China. How to put all that on a tight schedule, I really don´t know. I also don´t know anybody, who have shipped a motorcycle out of Hong Kong. That could be interesting, to say the least.

Regarding shipping out of unusual places, maybe also check out this thread below:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...rplane-67087-4

(Note, that I don´t mean to put down your plans in any way, just pointing out a few things, and hoping that it will be helpful!)
You are right, it is going to be difficult to get into China and be a long ride. I am not thinking it is going to be easy. I do have a very small advantage as my daughter-in-law is Chinese ( came to America to study ) and her family has connections to the Chinese government. It is still going to be complex to ride in China.
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ferry from UK to France-cunnel if that is considered a ride.
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I have been working on my route thanks to everyone here. Here is the changes for now. I still want to ride to Casablanca so I will and then return back to Spain since I can not cross the border to Algeria. I also update the webpage with the changes.

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Hi Greg, when are you planning this ride? I intend on riding from Wales (Cardiff) to Casablanca Morocco, but probably not until 2016.
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