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No dangerous roads in Northern California. Not much to see here either. Best get down to So Cal. Very dangerous roads.
(they call them Freeways!)

If you do find dangerous California roads ... please do not name them in your film. Let riders find them by themselves!

All the dangerous roads are in Colorado. Head EAST mate!

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Chile

I wouldn't call it dangerous, but the road from Puerto Montt to Chile Chico, Chile, is very beautiful. You have to take a few ferries, but it was much better than riding in the wind in Argentina. The best bit is around Lake General Carrera.
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Copper Canyon

The Copper Canyon.

Creel, Urque, Batopilas to Guachochi. Not to be missed!

P/S the guns n thugs were real!
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The Copper Canyon.

Creel, Urque, Batopilas to Guachochi. Not to be missed!
I would add that the dirt road from Urique to Batopilas is probably the most challenging of many challenging roads in Copper Canyon. This was told to me by Ivan from The 3 Amigos Adventures, Creel, who rides there regularly and is a long-time supporter of HU. He was at the 2004 HU meeting in Creel.

I think Drwnite has played it down and can give a good first-hand update...Dave?

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Ivan is correct and a real gentleman, I had the good fortune to pull up right outside his shop ;-) The dirt road from about 70 K's outside Creel to Urique, Batopilas and on to Guachochi is the most challenging road I've travelled, on 2 wheels anyway ;-)

Conditions can change fast, like the Batopilas River, I got up at 4am to check due to being warned it was going to flood, nothing! Went back, checked again at 5am and it had risen 4 meters and it rose a further 3! Then there was the ride out, 9 hours going for it, man what a mission, muddy roads, 2700m passes and plenty of creek crossings! My water bottle slipped out from under the ocky straps between Urique and Batopilas due to the footy sized rocks covering the road! The result 4 hours no water! I was drier than a pommy's towel! Funny once I got to Batopilas I all but jumped the counter to get a drink, well maybe I did ;-) Go prepared!

A couple of very dodgy locals in Guachochi, the local head of the electricity company, Hector turned up just as things were heading towards WTF? To ginger grins and photos! Hector saved the day and told me I was very lucky he turned up and I didn't run into these guys after dark! Despite it all, I'd do it again at the drop of a hat!

Mate, the one thing I regret is not taking more photos, you're going to love every inch of it !
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I wouldn't call it dangerous, but the road from Puerto Montt to Chile Chico, Chile, is very beautiful. You have to take a few ferries, but it was much better than riding in the wind in Argentina. The best bit is around Lake General Carrera.
Did it in bicycle in December, no rain most of the month, and no people, after New years eve I've heard it's packed with people.
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The OP asked for "dangerous" not "best" roads.


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Sorry ... not revealing any of our roads to be put on TV. Next thing you know some ass hat will be leading guided tours and the place will be crawling with cops ...ruining the whole area for everyone.
We are motorcyclists, not a FOR PROFIT business.

If you do find our best California roads ... please do not name them in your film and no GPS coordinates either. Let riders find them by themselves.
California is not your personal Disneyland for hire.

As we natives say:
WELCOME TO CALIFORNIA .... now go home!


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The OP asked for "dangerous" not "best" roads.
Sorry for being less than welcoming ... I just see so much commercialization coming in from all sides. I'll edit my post so as not to offend visitors.

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My idea would be that we all skip the direct insults, while trying to stay civil in disagreeing about the issues….whatever they are.

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Oh how could I forget the Tail of the Dragon? It's between Tennessee & South Carolina (but you aren't headed all the way over there...)

This road is dangerous in that it's notorious so every joe schmo wants to have a crack at it. There is a tree of shame festooned with crashed bike parts in the middle. The road itself is not that bad, very nice & twisty but good paved tarmac. We rode it at night when it was nice n empty and naturally came upon a biker who had just gone down. (He was fine)
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I've driven the Tail of the Dragon more than a dozen times, never fails to impress.

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