Stan if i may put in a bit input - depends what your looking for -

Wet weights usually have just enough fuel to make the bike run otherwise big tank bikes would way more than they want to show, often they remove other bits like tool kits etc as well.

The WR (and take into account i do not like jap stuff) Is a good looking copy of a traditional bike, it will do everyhting well no doubt and be very easy and reliable. Its very heavy at 215 without fuel and a parallel twin is never as nice as a v twin in my experience.

The triumph like wise is very heavy for the size and again lacks the genuine tag - its a copy dressed up to be and look like a triumph of old. I think they are reliable enough but look beyond the frontage and the build quality and components are very much compromised to cost.

The Guzzi is what it is, an original old bike built today with much higher build quality and standards, you are buying into the original history, design and character of this marque. Its lighter as a V& (the 2) adds weight with abs and stuff) the v7 comes in at 179 kg thats almost 5 stone lighter than the wr 800, (almost one of your panniers half full !!) and 7 1/3 stone lighter than the triumph. Even though the triumph makes more power - its lost on all that extra weight pulling.

The guzzi has most of its torque from 2 rpm making it very easy to ride in wet and slippy conditions

The hondas a different chice and not in the same comparison table to those above. so i will leave that to you

If it were me the Guzzi would win hands down without any doubt but I really love Guzzis ..

My local dealer is excellent - and have some good deals on a couple of new pre registered V7's Mo-tech Motorcycles Moto Guzzi.


Jake.