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And about my question, 2 roads or is the same? Which one?

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It doesn't make any difference whether it is 1 or 2 roads, the problem is that they have already announced more than 10 times in the past that the road is going to be opened soon....this soon never came.
The roads have been ready for quite some time now, but due to security and political issues at the borders they never actually opened it.
Officials in Both countries are good in making announcements and promises, but nothing materialises. Let us wait and see..

Egypt-Sudan land crossings to open in coming days: official - Sudan Tribune: Plural news and views on Sudan

Sudanese Foreign Minister announces new border crossings in Egypt - Daily News Egypt
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that is the best answer the one or 2 roads
and again in some news that the main road goes direct to Dongola and ferry free is going to open some timelater maybe a year ,or 2 or 10
all we have to do is to keep smiling be happy ,be positive hahahahaha
That is spot on: a year, 2, 10 or never.
So just wait and when you hear that they opened it, hop on
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Yes, I remember the Chris Scott's post about the different roads and I just ask if the 3000$ bribe is for the Qustul route or for the west bank one (may be both?).
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I believe the west side people paid heavily, as you might expect for an unorthodox exit from Egypt. But the few foreigners who have done the Qustul ferry route so far have also paid through the nose too as it's not officially open yet. I think they used a military barge?
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I believe the west side people paid heavily, as you might expect for an unorthodox exit from Egypt. But the few foreigners who have done the Qustul ferry route so far have also paid through the nose too as it's not officially open yet. I think they used a military barge?
THanks Chris, so you have to pay... (as usual in Egypt)

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Hi all,

There are indeed two roads - and before the official opening of either of them you have to pay this horrendous fee because officials have to be brought from Abu Simbel and Wadi Halfa to the border posts.

@Chris: You are right: For the Fiat record run ferry crossing, a military barge was used even though two civilian ferries have been ready to be used at least since 2012.

Chris' assumptions concerning the roads are correct. The Western road will be opened later because the continuation of the road on the Sudanese side to Dongola is not ready yet.

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http://www.alrakoba.net/news-action-show-id-160889.htm

According to this the Sudanese side says the land crossing will open next Wednesday 27/08/2014
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and also reduce that ridiculous Egyptian 800% security rate on vehicles....(I know...I know I'm dreaming)
This puts me off ever going to Egypt. Let's hope dreams come true !
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The last barge

Hi All
We are in Aswan right now waiting for the barge with our motorbikes. It looks that is the last one Everyone in Wadi Halfa and Aswan is very exited that the border will be open soon.
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The end of an era. The new arrangement will be just like crossing from Dover to Calais ;-)

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Then end of an era. The new arrangement will be just like crossing from Dover to Calais ;-)
Like Dover to Calais!!! It will never be mate....this is AFRICA.
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http://www.alrakoba.net/news-action-show-id-161338.htm

OK, the translation says the border crossing will open tomorrow according to the Sudanese presidential affairs minister.

Fingers crossed.
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do we think it will still be possible to get visas in Aswan though?
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Hi,

I'm currently in Sharm and on my way south. I had planned to take the ferry on tuesday in a week. will see if the road is really open by then and post it here.
If there is anyone there before me than please report any news!

As someone earlier in this thread already posted: The ferry is a nightmare but also an experience! Never the less just on the cost savings side this is a great news.
Let's cross fingers that the road will really open.

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(Began on Wednesday password experimental ground vehicles Ambassria commercial carrier for citizens between the states of Sudan and Egypt in preparation for the opening of the final link of the crossings between the two countries after three months. And opens the officials in the two countries, ports and border crossings Acchett Wadi Halfa and Qustul Aswan.).......(Bing translator is not brilliant...sorry)

According to this news site, they have opened the crossing today.
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