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d.sanchez: The thread was originally discussing the link piste from M'semrir in the Dades to Tamtattouchte in the Todra rather than going via Agoudal.

JamesC: The R703 (Todra) is tarmac all the way, the R704 (Dades) is piste running south from Agoudal for 43km then the tarmac starts again about 20km north of M'semrir.

In good conditions the Upper Dades route is suitable for riders/drivers with no technical expertise, however in poor conditions, particularly after heavy rains, this may no longer be the case. You certainly shouldn't be doing this route in snow.

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Ok, now i understand.
I saw this crossing, but as it was deep in the night when we returned we didn't try that route. Unfortunately i didn't know this road before.
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loop Gorge du Dadès to Gorge du Todra
Just did the whole gorge to gorge track today. The route was clean and clear
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Just did the whole gorge to gorge track today. The route was clean and clear
May I ask how long it took you and what bikes you were on please?
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Did it in a car. Had to keep it slow and take too many breaks because of a baby & pregnant wife in the car. Took us 9 hours. I reckon on my AT I can easily do this under 6 hours
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Hi to all, any news about this road ? (gorges-gorges)
I'll be there 8th of april 2016 with 8 offroad bikes and 2 4x4

thanks in advance
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Hi,

did that crossing over tizi n'uguent today with full luggage on my bike, therefore was hard work for me, but should be ok for you. The Msemrir side runs up completely in the riverbed, rocky sections, everything dry, but sometimes tricky. Tamtattouchte side is only partially in the riverbed and mostly on gravel road.
No traffic at all

Please let me know how it was for you...
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Hi, do it !
from Dades side to Todra side
some difficult to find the start of the route, but locals help us
8 light bike (150kg) without luggages and 2 4x4 with prepared suspensions,
about three hours to complete, not a funny road to drive but wonderful places.
the highest altitude reached is about 2630 mt
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latest info on Todra-Dades
Is there anybody who has done the Todra-Dades route within the last couple of months able to comment on the conditions? Depending on the weather I hope to do it in about 10 days time in a TLC. Last did it in 1970 in an ex-Military 3 ton Bedford RL with 20 punters in the back but in those days I was fearless! If it's rained or there's any snow I shall give it a miss.

Shame about the Hotel Yasmina at the entrance to the gorge - I've been using it for the past 45 years. Looking for an alternative around there, any personal recommendations - I'm travelling with a couple of discerning clients!

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Hi John,

It was pretty beaten up last April, not sure I'd attempt it in a solo vehicle. Would probably do Agoudal - Dades as the route to Todra is virtually all tarmac from Agoudal-Tamttetouchte and down into the gorge. Thye neck of the gorge was busted up.

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We have done the route from Dades valley to Agoudal and down to Todhra on 29.10.16 with 2 heavy motorbikes.
There were 2 days with strong rain some days before. We had many River crossings, but nothing really challenging. The piste is doable altough without 4x4.
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Thanks Pete, I'll probably take the tarmac up to Agoudal - did it last year in the Classic Land Rover magazine
'79 Series 3 - and then hang a left and loop back down the Dades.

Thanks for the up to date information Stefan, I guessed it might have rained about this time, I will check conditions on the spot next week.

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We just rode Boumalne To Agadoul & then down to Todra Gorge, road was OK the landscape was awesome.....but the temperature overnight in Agadoul was -8c. Anybody with experience on a motorbike could do it, but a vehicle would need to be a 4x4 I think !!!

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John H,We were there in November 2106 , with 6 vehicles took along time to get through no clear route, river beds and rocks all the way, took about 6 hrs
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Mud was a real problem for us one of the times I did this route. I was in the rear of about four or five bikes. The first two bikes tended to chew up the soft ground, the next two really rubbished what was left, and I ended up with the front wheel unable to turn due to the mud build-up between the tyre and mudguard.

That was on a F650GS twin and after the trip I fitted a mudguard modification to raise the guard by 50mm.
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Hi all, what about this year's road condition (I mean from Agoudal to M'semrir)?
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