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loop Gorge du Dadès to Gorge du Todra

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anybody knows if it's possible to do the loop from the "Gorge du Dadès" to the " Gorge du Todra"? I know there about 45 kms on dirt track from Msemrir to Tamtattouchte but I'd like to know precisely if it can be done with a Honda Transalp?

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Did it last week in a Landcruiser, few careful bits for us but nothing major. I would say its easy for bikes atm but I'm not a biker
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thanks the warden, for sure it's more easy with the 4X4;-)
Anyway it's good to know that at least the track is not closed!
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Just watched some of my gopro clips and there was a few rocky section but fairly short and a couple of sections when we had to search a little for the track on foot
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thanks for the tips the warden, it will help me to figure out what to expect
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The route basically is a series of river beds linked with some higher sections, so each time there's heavy rain the piste gets severely knocked about and it's never the same one year to the next.

You *should* be fine with a Transalp.

Route write-up and photos: E33 Gorge Link
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Thanks Tim, great report of the route
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Im very interested in this route as myself and a friend will be in this area in April next year. Is there any chance anyone could post up a map or some type of the route? Especially start and finish points.
Would be very helpful, thanks.
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Post removed, I was mistakenly talking about the cirque de jaffar not the gorge link.
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Hi,

anybody knows if it's possible to do the loop from the "Gorge du Dadès" to the " Gorge du Todra"? I know there about 45 kms on dirt track from Msemrir to Tamtattouchte but I'd like to know precisely if it can be done with a Honda Transalp?

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my friend was there mid of Oktober and the track was in bad condition, but was doable with heavy Africa Twin.

i have only this pic at the moment

pic from spezi



if you need i have the actually gpx track from this part

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Im very interested in this route as myself and a friend will be in this area in April next year. Is there any chance anyone could post up a map or some type of the route? Especially start and finish points.
Would be very helpful, thanks.
my friend is every year in Marocco
we are also in this area next year in April, if you need the gpx file from this part, pm me
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my friend is every year in Marocco
we are also in this area next year in April, if you need the gpx file from this part, pm me
Thanks for this information, its giving me more ideas for our 2 week trip. Looking on Google earth myself and cross referencing the route on the map you posted I can see the track. We will be on a XTZ 750 Super Tenere and a F650 GS but not looking for anything to challenging. I may get back to you about more details, your input is much appreciated.
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I did that route in december last year with a small 4x4.
Todra up the R703 and then down R704 to Dades.

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After going down the R704 for 1,5hours, the track was too deep and wet and ending in 1m deep snow with no tracks in it.

Tried to get as far as possible but with only one car and no winch, we turned around and had to drive all the way back to get to dades via N10. Didn't want to get stuck up there or even worse crash. The track is very narrow for a car and with 1m snow on it, you could easily slide down the side of the road.

Maybe it was only a cold winter, but keep in mind, that the R704 might be blocked by snow.
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So are the R703 and R704 not asphalt all the way? I took a guess they were, I've never been to Morocco, my trip in April will be my 1st time and wanted some light off roading but obviously don't want to get myself stuck or lost.
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d.sanchez: The thread was originally discussing the link piste from M'semrir in the Dades to Tamtattouchte in the Todra rather than going via Agoudal.

JamesC: The R703 (Todra) is tarmac all the way, the R704 (Dades) is piste running south from Agoudal for 43km then the tarmac starts again about 20km north of M'semrir.

In good conditions the Upper Dades route is suitable for riders/drivers with no technical expertise, however in poor conditions, particularly after heavy rains, this may no longer be the case. You certainly shouldn't be doing this route in snow.

Photos: E23 Upper Dades Gorge
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