Hi Samy,
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Hı Ozgur,
As you mentioned most of the things you said are
Original thread and question was safety and the places to avoid ın Turkiye.
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I am sorry but I don't agree. I tried to avoid

in my both posts. My first post was about safety and which places to avoid. My second post is still about the border, state of emergency and replies to your questions you asked after my post. So, in my opinion it is on-topic.
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If you don't feel safe in Ankara may be you have some special situation.
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I don't have any special situation but I still don't feel safe.
There is a state of emergency Turkey-wide. It is a fact.
And by definition, in many constitutions, during state of emergency, your basics rights and freedoms can be restricted by state. It is same in Turkish constitution. I told him about this fact.
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I am Turkish origin, born and raised in Turkiye. Was in Erzurum, Ardahan and Kars last week. Haven't met any securiy problems. Haven't met any security forces, even at the Armenian border.
May be in some areas security is tighter as it should be. Conflict continues within Syria along the border. So just stay away and you are all safe.
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Yep, I told to avoid Syrian border area and Armenian border.
Personally, I would avoid places near the Syrian border after the missile attacks to Kilis and Reyhanli.
As about Armenian border, I hosted many people in Ankara from different countries during their motorcycle trips and some of them had problems on Armenian border as captainktm. So, I advise avoiding Armenian border, not Kars, Erzurum or Ardahan. I will visit those places hopefully this summer by motorcycle but I will avoid Armenian Border.
May be I did not express myself well. I hope this is much more clear and this is my advise.
Do not camp, have picnic etc. somewhere in the vicinity of the Armenian Border. Do not go off-road around the border or do similar activities near the actual Armenian border. There is a higher chance of getting arrested instead of military, telling you that "this is a restricted area, so leave."
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By the way planning a trip with my family to Gaziantep, Hatay, Şanlıurfa, Mardin, Midyat, Cizre and Diyarbakır which you may find "dangereous".
Life of my family and kids are not less important than any others nor I am not stupid.
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I never said or implied you are stupid or you don't feel concerns about the safety of your loved ones. If you felt something like that from what I wrote, I am sorry.
Have a safe trip.
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Obeying rules while driving is an attitude and shows the cultural and educational level of a person and is not related to safety or the places to be avoided.
Samy
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I am sorry but I don't agree. It is very much related with safety. Traffic is a big safety issue. At least for me it is a big safety issue while riding my bike. I still stand behind my words. These days drivers are more reckless, aggressive, tense and it would be better to more careful and ride more defensively.
These are my opinions. You might not agree. I respect that and I am sorry if I offended you in any personal sense, it was not my intention.
Then we can agree to disagree on these matters.
Cheers,
Ozgur