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Old 2 Mar 2020
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Yeah for the easiest way down, you would want to go through Turkey. Roads are very well maintained and borders are quite easy to cross. The quietest border crossing is Malko Tarnovo (just south of Burgas), but if it's too far out of your way, you can just go through the main one at Kapikule and skip the queue (everyone does it on a bike).

Through Russia would also be nice, but you definitely need to get a visa ahead of time and plan your route more carefully.
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I won't be able to skip the queue since I will be going by car. ;-)
Was there a huge queue when you crossed? Are there separate queues for trucks and everyone else?
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Driving the Balkan route maybe in July and August will turn into a nightmare on the main route. Endless queues, tolls and constant waiting - maybe more relaxed at smaller border crossings.
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As of 2 March 2020, Turkey has decided to exempt visa requirements for the members of the European Union Schengen area, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain, Poland as well as the United Kingdom citizens for touristic travels to Turkey for every 90 days within 180-day periods,” https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...ntries-and-uk/ I believe Germany didn't require one anyway but as I'm a UK passport holder it's a newbie for me and may be of interest to others reading this.
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Georgia closed borders with Azerbijan and Armenia due to covid19
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Yes, The road is open only for trailers at this moment,





btw, they have list of prices in english, prices in Batumi for foods
Georgia doesn't have strategic food reserve and with border.closings/supply chain interruption there will be hiccups.
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I plan to drive from Berlin to Georgia. I would like to spend as much time as possible in the Caucasus, so I'd like to make the drive down to Georgia as short as possible.

I’m wondering which one is the better route from Central Europe to Georgia: North of the Black Sea through Ukraine/Russia or south of the Black Sea, through Turkey?

Considering that it is apparently still impossible to go through Crimea or the Donezk region in Ukraine (correct me if I’m wrong), I would need to take a huge deviation north through Charkiw. Still, even with this detour, it would be slightly shorter from here vs going through Turkey (~3400km vs 3600km).

But looking at Google Maps, >1000km of the route through Ukraine/Russia would be on small single lane roads, while going through Turkey, it would be motorways or at least double lane roads all the way to the Georgian border.

So I gather it would be quicker and less stressful going through Turkey?

Am I missing something? How difficult are the borders (Bulgaria/Turkey, Turkey/Georgia, Ukraine/Russia, Russia/Georgia)?
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Hello to Berlin, I bought the tickets in the port of Chernomorsk, they are only available there and not in the city at UKferry !!!! In the largest and most striking building far and wide. Price was $ 180 including meals. The whole procedure in the harbor is quite lengthy and annoying. The crossing is fun with all the truckers. You should be drinking safe! The meals post-Soviet. If you hand the Stewart $ 20 in hand you get a single cabin.
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Did that too.

Made a reservation at UKR Ferry before, and got my ticket there.

Just for the bike I had to go to the building you mentioned and had to check in there and pay some parts of the money there.

The rest is as you described.

only thing with the ferry:
You might have delay, we had 2 days.

And if you drive over Turkey, you can have some nice parts too.
As a German, you dont need a Visa for Turkey.
I am not german and did it online with evisa.
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I rode in Balkans in 2017. Border crossing from Bulgaria to Turkey near Burgas took 3 hours. The way back from Turkey to Bulgaria in Kapikule was a little bit more complicated, they requested every vehicle to pass a "disinfection" procedure. As we were on a motorcycle, it was not fun.

We were in eastern Turkey and Georgy in 2018, it was gorgeous trip, these are amazingly beautiful lands! Turkish autobahns are very good, it won't take much time from you to drive from Istanbul to Batumi. Batumi's suburban roads were not in good quality, but closer to Tbilisi it became better.

If I were you, I'd go by land over Turkey on the way to Georgy and take a ferry on the way back. When you just start a journey, your mind eagers for new landscapes, later it becomes replete. Russian visa is complicated, and there is nothing to see on the way to Georgy.
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