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Originally Posted by mollydog
I agree, would never use that system. Seen too many racks crack and break in Baja.
That sort of system puts stress onto your steel rack ... not to mention those "Wedge" mounts and plastic plates.
When riding 100's km on bad wash board road, most racks will crack and fall apart. Lots of wasted time getting things welded up. Been there, witnessed this several times.
I prefer old school "throw over" soft bag system where straps go OVER seat or frame, which takes 90% of the shock from rough road. You only need keep the bag off the exhaust.
You can still crack a rear sub frame if you over load your tail bag or box however.
With straps over the seat you have built in shock absorber system (soft seat) and on some bikes, you can go with NO RACK at all, just a heat shield for pipe.
I'm curious if you removed ALL the luggage off your KTM every night?
To me, that is A LOT of extra work. I've traveled with guys using Wolfman ... and getting it all off and back on is a bit of a job, IIRC.
I prefer INNER bags (the Nelson-Rigg panniers shown above come with inner bags)
All my stuff goes in inner bags. At Hotel, grab inner bag from panniers and go. Panniers stay put. Of course I take my top dry bag in as well. I use no tank bag, only Camel Back.
So only one trip from bike to room. And less than one minute putting inner bags back into panniers. About two minutes to strap on tail bag next morning.
I've seen guys struggle removing and remounting panniers onto their bikes with racks. Some use a lot of extra straps, hooks and such. With Inner bags, my panniers stay put on the bike. Always. I don't worry about theft of bags themselves. Secure parking a priority.

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This was my first go at any long distance touring and I actually had to build the racks from my KTM, so I bought the Wolfman Expedition bags because of their price and volume limit (to keep my kit light). My subframe was aluminum and it's a motocross bike, so I was in a unique situation. That's a bit off topic.
So I've lived in Latin America for a long enough time to have learned the unfortunate consequences of theft. If it's not nailed down, there's a high chance it'll disappear. Additionally, the Expedition bags do not have liners or inner bags that can be slipped out with the bag's contents. I had to take the panniers off. There wasn't any other option. I will say that there's a quick learning curve with the Expeditions and the system is masterfully simple. No exaggeration, I could have my saddlebags and duffle off in under 45 seconds. It's really that simple. I kept the seat straps connected and therefore could sling the panniers over one shoulder and then simply carry the duffle in the opposite hand. Literally all my luggage in one easy trip.
I timed myself putting the bags back on, and that is a 3 minute process, and that's not racing. So, yeah, it's not slip on, slip off like the Moskos, but it's definitely a lighter system and I would guess that it's much more durable.
But, as I said earlier, I probably wouldn't use the Expedition bags again for international travel. I probably would't use soft bags at all. I was traveling solo and sometimes I wanted to stop at a park or Maya ruins site. You could ask a guard to keep an eye on your bike if it's a big open parking lot, but that's not always an option, and guards can't always be trusted. If you want to park your bike in a town or small city and explore for a few hours, hard lockable panniers is the best option in my opinion...at least in Central America.
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