why not go soft
I think soft luggage is the best, you can take it into the hotel/tent or whatever after a days riding. I would be always thinking if someone is about to steal my stuff with ALLY panniers at night. If you use the box bags then you might as well use soft panniers.
Sod rivets, I know sinderland fairly well being from that neck of the woods and as an example to why shipyards turned to welding and boats moving to fiberglass - look at the Titanic !
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