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Originally Posted by colebatch
A russian guy I know who has ridden around the world once summarised this debate .... not saying I agree with him - at least not to this degree ... but his quote was simple and catchy:
"The pros use soft bags, the amateurs use metal boxes."
My experience is probably more like ... the experienced increasingly use soft bags, while the inexperienced are more likely to begin using metal boxes. i.e. There are many who started with metal boxes who switch to soft bags as they get more experienced. Many of the guys posting in this thread advocating soft bags are guys who began touring with metal boxes. They converted.
In the other direction, there are very few who switch from soft bags to metal boxes as they get more experienced.
There are experienced riders out there who still ride with metal boxes. But in most of those cases, its guys (or girls) who have never tried doing a long trip with soft bags.
Its an emotional debate ... and I will probably be flamed for having a pretty strong opinion on it. But I think I have enough experience to justify a strong opinion.
There are many threads on this site covering this ongoing debate of soft vs hard  It may be worth your while to search them if you have doubts, read the opinions of others, and draw your own conclusions. 
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Very well summed up Colebatch. I have to agree with everything you said. Oh and who is your Russian biker RTW'er friend? Sounds like a smart guy.
To answer the OP about handling which then turned into a Hard vs Soft vs Plastic debate:
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Originally Posted by big ben
hi all, i've never travelled on a bike with hard panniers and being very new to this kind of thing just wondered how they will change the handling of the bike if at all.maybe soft panniers would be better ,if anyone can help that would be great thanks 
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Added unbalanced weight will contribute to poor handling but there are things you should do whatever luggage you choose. Keep in mind that each bike has it's own max carrying capacity.
This is not just in reference to the suspension, handling or tyre capabilities but also to not stress the frame and engine beyond its designed capacity.
To compensate for extra weight and overloading, you should do the following:
1) increase tyre pressure - I usually run 2-3 psi higher
2) check oil more regularly
3) check/adjust suspension setup - you may need higher rated spring(s)
4) increase stopping distances - more load means it will take longer to stop
5) keep heavy items as low and central as possible
6) keep weight in topbox to minimum (to much weight will cause the bike to tail steer in soft surfaces and can cause an accident)
7) adjust front/rear balance - where possible redistribute the weight to the front of the bike
With the right setup your bike should still handle as well as with just the rider with no luggage. BUT every rider should customise their bike setup for themself.
Ted started a good thread on this very topic here.
Last edited by TurboCharger; 1 Jun 2011 at 13:18.
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