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Ahhhh my good man ! I'm not sure which luggage you prefer but one of the main advantages of soft, is that it's also WAAAAAY cheaper !

And because it's soft, doesn't mean it has to be small. My soft bags must be about 80L combined. There is no luxury lost there.

They weigh 20kg less than my old M-Mules and fit the same stuff.
Hey Ted, it's not the weight or price of the bags I'm on about it - it's the premium price people pay for superlight weight tents and other gear that goes in the bags. I'm debating it on ADV at present where my argument that spending $350 on a tent to save a kilo in weight doesn't make any sense when my elcheapo tent cost a tenth of the price and does the job just as well (for me at least).
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Hey Ted, it's not the weight or price of the bags I'm on about it - it's the premium price people pay for superlight weight tents and other gear that goes in the bags. I'm debating it on ADV at present where my argument that spending $350 on a tent to save a kilo in weight doesn't make any sense when my elcheapo tent cost a tenth of the price and does the job just as well (for me at least).
I'm right there with you bro !! My £15 Tesco tent actually lasted longer than a £120 one which actually weighed more....

Cheap and disposable is the best way ever... There's nothing worse than carting around some expensive, bulky item that you hardly use or want to change, but can't ditch or give away because it cost too much..

I've done it too many times


When I finished my trip in South America, I ended up giving away an expensive riding suit and sleeping bag because I couldn't carry it home. I left a £200 tent in Buenos Aires because I got sick of carrying it too..

In Malawi I sold a £150 for £40 because I was bored of it and ended up ditching loads of other stuff that I was sick of carrying..

I'm like a rolling overland equipment charity...
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I'm like a rolling overland equipment charity...
so whats next mate? ditching the 15 quid tesco tent for a bag of jelly babies?
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so whats next mate? ditching the 15 quid tesco tent for £3?
The £15 is the only one I have left after leaving my others around the world lol...

I don't think i'm even going to carry camping and cooking stuff next time. Maybe just a tiny back packer tent for emergencies..

Hostels are bloody everywhere now and are often cheaper than camp sites.. Plus, you get to meet tons of great people.
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I don't think i'm even going to carry camping and cooking stuff next time. Maybe just a tiny back packer tent for emergencies..

Hostels are bloody everywhere now and are often cheaper than camp sites.. Plus, you get to meet tons of great people.
Depends where you go I think, like if you were in Australia or the USA you wouldn't want to be paying $80 a night for a crappy motel room in between the cities.
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I don't think i'm even going to carry camping and cooking stuff next time. Maybe just a tiny back packer tent for emergencies..

Hostels are bloody everywhere now and are often cheaper than camp sites.. Plus, you get to meet tons of great people.
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All of the best places I've spend the night have been camping. Heaps better than a feral guesthouse with sagged beds and 200 year old pillows.
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All of the best places I've spend the night have been camping. Heaps better than a feral guesthouse with sagged beds and 200 year old pillows.
Have to agree with that, we have a Hilliberg Kieron GT4 and we have used it through Europe etc, taking it next year on our American trip for 2 years or so
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There's nothing worse than carting around some expensive, bulky item that you hardly use or want to change, but can't ditch or give away because it cost too much..
Like a 1200GSA ?
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Hey Ted, it's not the weight or price of the bags I'm on about it - it's the premium price people pay for superlight weight tents and other gear that goes in the bags. I'm debating it on ADV at present where my argument that spending $350 on a tent to save a kilo in weight doesn't make any sense when my elcheapo tent cost a tenth of the price and does the job just as well (for me at least).
$350.- for a tent... HA! ...try Euro 759.- or US$1,092.- (1.44 EX-RATE) for a 2-folks tent .

Not so much for the weight, but for good quality equipment. I don't buy into "elcheapo" doing an equally good job. But, we all have different expectations of our gear...
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$350.- for a tent... HA! ...try Euro 759.- or US$1,092.- (1.44 EX-RATE) for a 2-folks tent .

Not so much for the weight, but for good quality equipment. I don't buy into "elcheapo" doing an equally good job. But, we all have different expectations of our gear...
Although off the topic of the initial thread I agree with T.REX63 I bought a coleman tent which the perfect size, packed and up, weight the whole deal. Then I spent at least 30mins at every second site repairing snapped poles. Then the zipps started to fail...I think I will be buying quality this time..unless i can buy the same tent alone the way..maybe Touring Ted has the idea about hostels...
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