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Hi Ekkemu

I had the emulators made at a local machine shop. They are cheap and easy to make. If you give me an e-mail address I will send you a drawing so you can have them made anywhere that has got a lathe.

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can you mail drawings to me too? cyberzar at hotmail dot com

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Hei everybody,

I am back again with some fresh info and questions About the rear now. Because swaping the forks might be problematic for several reason, out of which one is the length of the new forks (I have a pair of KTM 640 enduro forks in my garage and they are about 4,5 cm longer than the XT's). You can slide them a little through the triple clamps, but they will hit the handlebar, so that's not enough play there. However, I found a device that raises the rear of the bike and this, together with raising the front a little, would mean somewhat the same geometry, isn't it? And also more ground clearance!

So, what do you guys think about this? Is it risky, does it look ok to you? I found it on ebay.de for 35 EUR.






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raising the rear to match the front may give you the same rake but the ktm forks woud give a different trail, plus raising the rear with that spacer will alter the way the swingarm linkage works and jacking the rear that way will shorten the distance between axle and pivot points.

if you read what i wrote erlia you will see that i had to extend the rear. even though my bike is supermoto'd and is fitted with 17" wheels i've had to do a lot of work to make the bike handle correctly.
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if you read what i wrote erlia you will see that i had to extend the rear. even though my bike is supermoto'd and is fitted with 17" wheels i've had to do a lot of work to make the bike handle correctly.
Yes, I read what you wrote ... so you are suggesting that instead of that spacer I'd better use a longer rear shock? What if I change the spring on mine, will this make the situation better, i.e. raise the rear of the bike? I would love to also raise the bike a little with this mod if possible as it does not really have a big ground clearance (compared to the ktm 640 Adv for instance).

What are the essentials that need to be kept regarding the geometry in order not to screw up the bike handling?
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Hey, I've got that higher-thingy from ebay.

It raises the ass pretty much, I'll guess 6-8cm.

Im about 2 meters tall, and it's allmost to high for me. I can stand on the ground fine, but when im riding on a path og generally offroad, I want to be able to push away with my feet, and i can barely do that.

My buddy has got som picturesof my xt, comparede to a stock one.

I'll upload them as soon as i get them.
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Yes, I read what you wrote ... so you are suggesting that instead of that spacer I'd better use a longer rear shock? What if I change the spring on mine, will this make the situation better, i.e. raise the rear of the bike? I would love to also raise the bike a little with this mod if possible as it does not really have a big ground clearance (compared to the ktm 640 Adv for instance).

What are the essentials that need to be kept regarding the geometry in order not to screw up the bike handling?
i'm using a longer swing arm, my rear ttr shock is the same length as the xt600.
any shock change will alter the properties and geometry of the suspension.

it all depends on the intended use of the bike which way you want to go mine is set up for road use only so the ground clearance is not an issue.

if you want a lot more ground clearance buy a different bike the xt600 is not a motocross or dirt bike its a trail bike

altering the rake and trail will have a major difference in how it steers, in simple terms rake alters how quick it turns and trail alters stability.
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Everyone told me that it would handle and steer very poor, when it was raised.

I cant feel anything different.
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if you want a lot more ground clearance buy a different bike the xt600 is not a motocross or dirt bike its a trail bike
Thanks for your reply wolfzero. I am intending to use my XT for trail riding, but I compared it side by side with a 640 KTM Adv and the difference in ground clearance is pretty big, both being bikes for the same purpose.

Anyway, I got the point and I understood what you explained, I think I'll hold on that riser thingy for now.

@Jens: Can you upload some photos, please? Did you change the rear shock? What other mods did you do to the bike? How much do you weigh?


I did some more measurements and I have a new question. The USD fork from a KTM that I have in my garage, would almost fit (with a changed 18 inch back rim, I think it will balance just fine), but there is one thing that I am concerned about. To make it fit to the XT frame, the distance between the 2 triple clamps has to be reduced by aprox 5cm. Would this impact the overall performance of the fork? Is there any danger of a serious mistake here? I am thinking that the forks being 43mm (i.e. thicker than the XT's) they might indeed need a longer distance between the triple clamps to hold them right, but ... again, I might be wrong. What's your opinion on this? The horizontal distance between the centers of the clamps (XT vs KTM) is the same.
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Hi Guys,

I have a questions and hope somebody can help me. We are going on a trip to south east asia in january and I found a 2002 Yamaha XT600 for my wife. Does anybody know if I can get a lowering kit for this bike? She can get her foot on the ground but for the trip I defenetly have to lower it a bit. What is the best solution and where can I get the stuff?

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Hi Mario

I've recently fitted a KEDO lowering kit to my XT600 2003 year bike.
It needs some minor work on the linkage to fit and I would suggest
taking the opportunity to check/grease your suspension
bearings at the same time.

Not been off road with it yet but on road handling and suspension
is great so I'm confident off roading will be as good.

Both front and rear suspension is lowered and you get a part for
the side stand adjustment - well recommended.


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Hi guys, yes i know this thread is old, but did anyone ever get any drawings for fork emulators for the tenere?

if so, do you want to share the wisdom.
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Émulator For 2kf
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I m looking for a drawing to manufacture an emulator for my 2kf
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Hi Ekkemu

I had the emulators made at a local machine shop. They are cheap and easy to make. If you give me an e-mail address I will send you a drawing so you can have them made anywhere that has got a lathe.

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can you Shane your emulator drawing With me ?
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can you Shane your emulator drawing With me ?
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He has not logged in since 2009, i suggest you send him a PM.

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