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OK, I have an engineering degree and can't answer all the above off the top of my head, but here's a start....
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Wow... Andy... thank you soooooooooooo much for taking the time to answer so patiently and comprehensively... and SIMPLY
It all makes perfect sense and I'm glad I asked!!
I'm ESPECIALLY excited about the washers... woooowww!! That makes a LOT of sense now!!!
(I must confess...though... when you started talking about tightening and torque and calibration and tighterness... uhmm... my head started feeling a bit funny... so I've skipped those bits... guess I've not gone COMPLETELY petrol head yet!)
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Wow... Andy... thank you soooooooooooo much for taking the time to answer so patiently and comprehensively... and SIMPLY
It all makes perfect sense and I'm glad I asked!!
I'm ESPECIALLY excited about the washers... woooowww!! That makes a LOT of sense now!!!
(I must confess...though... when you started talking about tightening and torque and calibration and tighterness... uhmm... my head started feeling a bit funny... so I've skipped those bits... guess I've not gone COMPLETELY petrol head yet!)
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You're welcome.
Getting excited about washers though, that's about the time you should go for a ride or head for the pub  . I'd recomend the ride or one day you'll find yourself in the pub, actually having an opinion about Torx bolts versus Phillips head or some such rubbish. At that point you may as well give up and buy something old, British and non-oil tight and/or a mechano set!
Looking at the stainless, did you save the old bolts all together? I tend to bag 'em all up, then when it comes to stowing a handful of just-in-case bolts on the rack or numberplate, you've got a ready made source that tells you there's lots of one size or another. This guarantees that when the mudguard comes loose on your F650 30 km up a forest track in Norway you'll know exactly where the right nuts are. They are in the bag in the garage at home
Aren't cable ties useful 
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You're welcome.
Getting excited about washers though, that's about the time you should go for a ride or head for the pub  . ...
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It all started when HenryUK pointed me to Stagonset - Stainless Nuts and Bolts, Screws and Fasteners -- and an uncontrollable urge to SHOP! SHOP! SHOP! got hold of me...
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Speaking of old and British regards fasteners, lets pause and reflect on
good 'ol Whitworth!
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Learn where this limit is. Just takes some time and experience on the wrenches.
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A couple of things:-
good quality tools will fit the bolt head better than cheap ones - less chance of rounding.
use hex (6point) sockets where you can rather than bi hex (12point) - again less chance of rounding.
the open end of a spanner will do less damage to a corroded bolt head than the closed 12point
on stuck bolts a slight tightening before loosening sometimes works to free the corrosion but be gentle
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Excellent question and good, informative and interesting replies.
Thank you people.
And I'm with Matt on the torque wrench front as I invested £50 on one a couple of years ago and I simply never use it.
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I invested about £35 on a torque wrench, and, never use it.
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A couple of things:-
good quality tools will fit the bolt head better than cheap ones - less chance of rounding.
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This is a VERY good point. My first set of tools was a set of 'Draper' ones: proudly made in Britain to very low tolerances of accuracy! Sometimes the different in fit between the ring end and the open jaw is extraordinary. And then I broke the end off my 14mm changing a tyre and thought: "Hmm, time for new spanners!"
Seriously, cheap spanners can fit very poorly and damage the hex, making undoing even more difficult.
I now have a set of Eloras, proudly made in Germany, which I bought because my dad, who does more than his fair share of spannering due to two vintage cars, still has the set he bought when he was at uni. They are expensive but they (shock horror) fit, and not only that but are actually slimmer and lighter than my old drapers (now relegated to the back of the car) so make ideal spanners for the bike tool-kit.
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