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Ok, now we're splitting hairs. Both these bikes aren't true trail bikes. I know because I tried to consider it one on a recent Baja trip and am now lusting for a beta. (It never skipped a beat though.) But I've never had a situation on my WRR where I felt, dang I wish i went for a crf for that little bit more torque.
Both these bikes are lightweight adventure bikes leaning more towards a trail bike than an adventure bike compared to any other adventure bike. But out of the two the yammy is marginally more trail bike than the Honda it seems. Pick your route and choose accordingly. The Honda wasn't around when I got my yammy but I'd still get the yammy because of its better spec and aftermarket support. Made concessions on spec in the past add it just ended up pissing me off. Don't see the dealings with a foreign bike as that much of a hurdle myself.
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Originally Posted by Snakeboy
If I remember right (I did a bit of research on both these bikes myself at one stage)
WR: Oil change every 5 k km and valve check every 40 k kms
CRF: Oil change every 12 k kms and valve check every 24 k kms.
Then again - if one ride in a hot environment and with a bit of weight on the bike and maybe some highway miles - maybe someone would like to change oil more often than every 12 k kms on the Crf?
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The CRF has a lower compression ratio than the WR (10.7 vs. 11.8) and a larger oil capacity (1.8 vs. 1.5 litres). Thus the oil doesn't work as hard as in the WR and would probably go the distance if you use good quality oil.
But the CRF is heavier than the WR and has less power, so the WR's power-to-weight ratio is much better,
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Originally Posted by tremens
although wr has ,more power, crf has better torque down the low, what really matters off-road.
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Ok, now we're splitting hairs. Both these bikes aren't true trail bikes. I know because I tried to consider it one on a recent Baja trip and am now lusting for a beta. (It never skipped a beat though.) But I've never had a situation on my WRR where I felt, dang I wish i went for a crf for that little bit more torque.
Both these bikes are lightweight adventure bikes leaning more towards a trail bike than an adventure bike compared to any other adventure bike. But out of the two the yammy is marginally more trail bike than the Honda it seems. Pick your route and choose accordingly. The Honda wasn't around when I got my yammy but I'd still get the yammy because of its better spec and aftermarket support. Made concessions on spec in the past add it just ended up pissing me off. Don't see the dealings with a foreign bike as that much of a hurdle myself.
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Ooh i do love getting into the nitty gritty.
The only issue I think that hasn't been covered here is the known reliability issues.
The last 2 days I have trawled the CRF and WRR specific owners forums to see what the most common faults that rear their heads. For the WR almost all of the problems were related to the to '08 (release year) fuel pumps and chain skip on the ridiculous pyramid shaped rear sprocket teeth. I really can't find too many gripes for common faults.
But the forums for CRF it was mostly oil leaks, fork seals and top end issues.
I can't tell if if made my mind up. I feel there has to be some dirt on the WR that isn't widely reported. It looks like the greatest complaint is the lack of engine torque and the stock gearing. More often than not when I see a WR vs CRF thread the deciding factor in favour of the CRF was the simply the cost.
I'm still keen to hear about any shortfalls in the WR suspension though. Most reports I have seen have praised it greatly over the CRF and KLX.
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. For the WR almost all of the problems were related to the to '08 (release year) fuel pumps and chain skip on the ridiculous pyramid shaped rear sprocket teeth. I really can't find too many gripes for common faults.
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yamaha reliability really dropped these days and wr has far more issues, most recent stators failure and recall which can leave you stranded.
Top end in crf??? never heard of, but I heard about tensioner issues.
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yamaha reliability really dropped these days and wr has far more issues, most recent stators failure and recall which can leave you stranded.
Top end in crf??? never heard of, but I heard about tensioner issues.
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That's news to me. I've heard fuel pumps on the older ones. They changed the part number I think. Biggest gripe for me is the chain guide even as it's a minor part. No excuse for not working out the geometry in design. Particularly nowadays with computer modelling.
Still haven't heard anything more about the suspension issues.
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