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Originally Posted by JMo (& piglet)
Hi momo - I think the reason people have suggested something in the 650cc class is because you say you'd like to travel two-up, and any of the 450cc 'class' dual-sport bikes tend to be designed for solo riders, or very occasional pillion use (ie. a short lift into town or back from a pub/restaurant), not day-in and day-out touring - as there isn't the space and/or associated comfort typically, unless you go for a physically larger bike.
If you don't want to go for something like the twin-cylinder CB500X (which is only 471cc btw. and punches well above it's weight in that regard), and stick with a single-cylinder dual-sport design - then of the bikes you list above, I think the DRZ400 is going to be your best option. Plenty of people have travelled all over the world on those - they are reliable, and have far more 'street' style maintenance schedules (4000 mile oil changes as I recall), plus there is a huge aftermarket for them if you want/need a larger tank, more comfortable seat, luggage racks and engine guards etc.
I have a number of friends who use these as 'travel enduros' around Europe, and they swear by them - they are also fully street legal (if you by the S or SM version), and even the E model can be registered for the road in most European countries.
I know [some] people bemoan the lack of a 6th gear for higher speed cruising at lower revs, but to be honest the stock gearing is good for 70+mph if needs be, and most backroad and off-road touring is done at a far lower average speed.
If it were me, I'd buy a clean DRZ400SM model (slightly lower suspension, but with the USD fork from the RMZ range, and 17" wheels) and re-lace the front hub with a 19" rim. That way you'd get a 10" travel bike with 17" rear and 19" front wheels that can take a whole range of dual-sport tyres, with improved road-manners over a dedicated 18/21" wheel/tyre combo. Both the S and SM models also come with pillion foot-pegs of course.
I'd fit a larger aftermarket tank (IMS or similar), and probably look at a more comfortable seat (or at least a replacement foam and cover); and if carrying a passenger then a rack for luggage - otherwise, just a Giant Loop bag over the rear of the seat.
And 'crack on' as they say!
Hope that gives you something to go on...
Jenny x
ps. Looking at your potential budget, before you make your mind up on a single though, do check out my recent ride-report on the Rally-Raid CB500X here - it really is an excellent all-terrain travel machine.
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Wow, this is great info, thanks so much for this this Jenny. So I went back and carefully read the adventure-motorcycling.com review on the CB500X and your ride report, which were both very encouraging. I also checked out the RRO website and looked at the options. I definitely see the benefit of the twin. As you pointed out will be more comfortable with a pillion, smoother on the highway, and although im not hungry for it... its always nice to have a bit more power when needed. Im finding some good looking used ones here under 10000km in the 4400€ price range. As for add ons, Im not the type to tear up too much track and push a machine just for sport and fun so I imagine I would be fine with the RR suspension kit 1 (im also only 1.73m so wouldn't be too keen on the extra 2 inches of added height). Im not even sure I could justify the tubeless tire kit. But would be curious to hear which of the RRP upgrades you would consider a "necessity" considering my needs.
Anyways, yes, I think I will keep this as an option.
But I was also sold a bit on what you had to say about the DRZ400. I found this thread which seems to add credence to the fact that you can ride one of those fairly comfortably at 70mph speeds. DRZ400 on the highway | Adventure Rider
And I can pick one up here in good condition with abou 7k km on it for just under 3900€. With all the money leftover I could modify the hell out of it and make it a pretty badass little machine. New gearing for starters, and your idea for the tires makes great sense.
Its a whole hell of a lot lighter than the CB. (146 vs 196).
Anyways...I think I've narrowed it down some at least. Thanks again everyone for the input. Hopefully this thread will help someone else out in the future.
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