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Small bike? Well in that case I'm going to say a Derbi Terra Adventure. It's only a 125cc but I'm happy on mine at 65-75mph all day, and it's not the cheapest, about £2800 new, but it's been out for a year or so now so there might be secondhand ones knocking around. AND, Derbi have finally pulled their fingers out and panniers and rack are now available, I believe they're made by Trax. There's also the plain Terra, which is a bit cheaper, been out longer but is pretty much the same thing but more road orientated, and I'm sure the pannier racks would fit just the same.
More to be found HERE. Go on, move to the darkside, get a 125. After all who can resist 65+ mpg.
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Very nice looking little bike. Doing a 125 version of a big adventure bike (as opposed to an enduro or supermoto lookalike) had never occured to me. If they publicise it well, I bet Derbi will be very successful with it.
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Pity they don't do bigger
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Very nice looking little bike. Doing a 125 version of a big adventure bike (as opposed to an enduro or supermoto lookalike) had never occured to me. If they publicise it well, I bet Derbi will be very successful with it.
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It is great and I believe they're selling fairly well amongst the E & C wannabees who find they don't have a bike licence (that'd be me then). I'm sure it could cope with a bigger engine too and now Derbi's part of Piaggio they've got access toa full range of engines. They could even use the 659 from the Mulhacen, although as that's from Yammie maybe they'd be reluctant to supply to someone building a budget Tenere.
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Does anyone know what top speed a Serow 225 will do? Not the new one.
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Joe, the XT225 does the same as the 250 by all accounts. With standard gearing (15 tooth front sprocket) they're good for 75mph but they're much happier at 60 or 65. If I was doing big miles I'd stick to 55-60. It'll give much better fuel economy and it's fast enough for touring. You can fit a 16 tooth front sprocket for easy 70mph cruising if you think you'll be doing a lot of it. Otherwise I'd stick with the standard one.
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Small bike? Well in that case I'm going to say a Derbi Terra Adventure. It's only a 125cc but I'm happy on mine at 65-75mph all day, and it's not the cheapest, about £2800 new, but it's been out for a year or so now so there might be secondhand ones knocking around. AND, Derbi have finally pulled their fingers out and panniers and rack are now available, I believe they're made by Trax. There's also the plain Terra, which is a bit cheaper, been out longer but is pretty much the same thing but more road orientated, and I'm sure the pannier racks would fit just the same.
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You need a Serow, a Yamaha XT 250. I love mine.
It'll go anywhere you want. 85 mpg and 60-65 cruising, more than enough. They're a japanese import here in the UK but they're available. Here's mine loaded up in france last year...
Then there is the new 2009 KLX250...
2009 Kawasaki KLX250S Review - Motorcycle.com
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Hi, that's my latest vision of an ideal set up for touring, could you tell me how you are protecting the panniers from the exhaust? I was thinking about using soldering pads but i guess you must have figured out a system.
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You need a Serow, a Yamaha XT 250. I love mine.
It'll go anywhere you want. 85 mpg and 60-65 cruising, more than enough. They're a japanese import here in the UK but they're available. Here's mine loaded up in france last year...
Then there is the new 2009 KLX250...
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I've kept it really simple and have no rack or brackets fitted. i just sling them over the seat and it rests on the exhaust heatshield. It's worked fine so far. Of course they would be better if they rested on a bracket of some kind but i've done miles like this without incident. The benifit is the bike is stock when all the luggage is removed.
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Quote:
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You need a Serow, a Yamaha XT 250. I love mine.
It'll go anywhere you want. 85 mpg and 60-65 cruising, more than enough. They're a japanese import here in the UK but they're available. Here's mine loaded up in france last year...
Then there is the new 2009 KLX250...
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Thats a great looking small overlander bike.
Are those tank panners military respirator pouches?? If so how have you mounted them? If not what are they adn where did u get them from?? I'm after a set of "cheap" tank panniers
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I'm also a Serow rider, both the 225 and 250 models.
My trusty 250's covered over 67,000 miles and will be four years old at the end of October this year.
Fabulous, fun, efficient, simple, little bike.
Come the time when I have to replace her, I'd buy another one without second thought.
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KTM 250 single cam??, they also did a hop up kit upto 300ish cc. EXC was upto '06.... long skirt piston.
I'd avoid the double cam stuff (I have one), they've got short skirt pistons (big bills) and it appears anything from 07 onwards has appalling build quality... the fastners and sub frame on mine are goosed after 90 hours running.
I'm probably swapping back to an '05 model, better made IMO. Never had any of the above issues with my '01 model.
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Another option
Ancient Hondas run nearly forever, and parts are easy to find, and less likely to be nicked. My friend Shona rode her 1979 CM 185 to Mexico and return from Vancouver- 7000 km. Wide seat too. The bike that is...
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less is more
I just starting planning for next spring's big trip. I'm taking my WR250R (not F) on a longwayround (no flaming). I feel I can really talk this one up now as they're hard to come by (for decent money) and now that I've got mine and won't be affected if you all rush out and get one!
I'll post some pics as it takes shape. Still early days but 75mpg is the norm. 70mph easy and comfortable but this all comes with the proviso that it needs a rebuilt seat and an aqualine tank. First valve clearance check is north of 20,000miles. 130kg easily. Love it more than my XT660R.
Travelling light is an art I intend to master...
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Hey Camerman,
Just PM'd you!
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