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While I am looking for ways of reducing the weight of the Tenere if and when I get it, here is some info on the Akrapovic muffler on the new Tenere straight from Akrapovic itself:

The slip on system for 2008 Yamaha Tenere has already gone into production. You can buy it only through Yamaha´s dealership. Due to agreement we cannot give you detailed information. Our system has two mufflers is actually 1 - 2. The complete system weigh about 0,8kg less than stock. For more information, please contact your Yamaha dealer.

0.8 kg of weight reduction is puny given the cost.
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I never saw the benefit in having twin exhausts on a single cylinder engine when many twin cylinder engines manage perfectly well with a single exhaust! As well as the weight penalty it interferes with pannier mountings.

josephau: What about keeping the GS for the moment and getting a really lightweight 250-400cc low-cost second-hand trail bike to help improve your technique? At only 20 kg lighter than the 12GS I don't think the Ténéré will allow you to have the confidence to build your technique.

I appreciate it's not the advice you're after, and logic has nothing to do with bike purchasing decisions.
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Exactly what I have thought on bikes like the Honda Dommie:

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I never saw the benefit in having twin exhausts on a single cylinder engine when many twin cylinder engines manage perfectly well with a single exhaust!
+ no matter which side you drop the bike, a silencer is going to get damaged.

Totally agree about the weight saving on the new(ish) 1200GS over the 1150: I have mused for some time about that loss of 30Kg, compared with all the new offerings from Honda etc that are increasing in weight.
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Thanks Tim for your suggestion. Having more than one vehicle is not exactly on my agenda, because a) I don't have a garage, and b) I used to have a car and a bike, then realized I never really get to know or enjoy either. Besides, I doubt that I want to get into too hardcore of dirt riding. I know it may sound a bit contradictory to my earlier comments, but I do see a difference, at least for me, between hardcore offroad and soft ones. In addition, while the weight is an issue on offroad, it is a positive thing on highway to gain stability. As you and others say, there is no perfect bike for all road conditions, but I am trying to figure out that personal sweet spot in a large common grey area.

I just read another guy who test-drove a F800GS and a Tenere, and he is trading his Africa Twin for the Tenere. He agrees on the lack of power on the Tenere comparing to the F800, but he seems to love everything else of the Tenere.

This friday I am making a test drive on the Tenere with the seat taken out and my sitting on some blankets in order to solve the seat height problem.
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Take a look at the F650GS as well, at least it's the right height for you!

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we headed backwards on the same route (like mostly off-road) now mounted on the F650GS, mag wheels and all – yes I know all the BMW press has said that this is no off-roader, but off-road we took ‘em. Let me tell you folks – this little wunderkind is the unsung hero, with my jaded cranium now fueled with Espresso and not , I found myself chucking this little bugger around on the dirt with a huge grin on my dusty lips.

For a bike that’s not meant to be off-road – this one took everything that I threw at her – sure it doesn’t have the suspension travel that the big brother 800GS has, but it still handled the dust proper. If you’re a person who’s travelling down the West Coast and you see a dirt highway you want to investigate, but you’re worried coz your missus or some mates are on one of these – don’t be scared, the F650GS will handle it no worries mate. We ramped them, scraped them, bounced them across gravel and rocks, splashed them across water crossing and the tuff little buggers came out smiling!
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My review (and many others' views) on the F650 and F800: F650/800GS road test reports by UKGSers
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I don't see how people like the look of the Tenere. Am I the only one that thinks it looks like a crasshopper?
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