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OK, this might be a question that's an open door but hell. If I buy a bike in mongolia it's on Mongolian plates. Do I insure this bike back home regardless of the plates? Or do I insure it locally? can you insure it even as a non-mongolian man? I do like to have insurance

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OK, this might be a question that's an open door but hell. If I buy a bike in mongolia it's on Mongolian plates. Do I insure this bike back home regardless of the plates? Or do I insure it locally? can you insure it even as a non-mongolian man? I do like to have insurance

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I don't know specifically how the system works in Mongolia and in your place I'd want to get some info about required paperwork from the UB dealer. Then I'd want a second answer from someone else (on here maybe) who's been there and has no interest in selling me something. I'd fully expect the bike you buy to have a Mongolian plate and I'd want some sort of registration document to prove it is registered to you in UB (or whatever is the Mongolian system). I'd also want a sales receipt from the dealer to prove he's sold it to you legally.

Don't ignore the paperwork. Nothing will stop you faster than a border guard wanting some form you don't have or a police check for insurance you haven't bought. In general though you'll need to buy insurance for each country you pass through, and usually you'll be able to buy it somewhere near the border. If the plate doesn't make sense to the insurance co they may use the frame no instead.

The exception is the EU where buying it at the first border should cover you all the way back. It probably won't be much good as actual insurance (so don't crash or hit something - I can't imagine the problems with a Dutch bloke riding a Mongolian bike with Greek insurance having an accident in Poland) but if fulfils the legal requirements if you're stopped or going through a non Schengen border.

That bit should be doable. You should be able to get yourself through each border back to the EU with a bit of thought about visas. What you'll need depends on your route - into Russia and back or some other route? My main worry though would be about vehicle import requirements. If a visa and passport gets you across each border, the equivalent for the bike will be the registration document and some kind of paperwork about import duty.

That last bit is vague because it varies. Some countries don't bother about it, some will do something like enter the bike's details in your passport so you can't leave the country without it and others want a formal record and financial guarantees. For those countries you'll need a Carnet. By and large that's going to be a tricky thing for you to arrange (as well as expensive and time consuming (months)) even if it's possible at all. So, check out (there are lists on this site) which countries need a carnet and (my advice) try to avoid them. It may well be that you don't need it, in which case breath a sigh of relief.

Bringing the bike back into the EU is going to be slightly tricky as it depends what you're going to do with it once you get home. If you're going to keep it there may be difficulties with re registering it or if you're not there will probably be a time limit after which it needs to be out of the EU.
This stuff goes beyond what I know about as I've never done it but there are plenty here who have and hopefully they'll be able to tell you what you need to do. The important bit is what happens at the first EU border you come to.

It all sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare and it may well be time consuming to sort out but in reality you need the various bits of paper as much as you need good tyres and enough fuel.
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...depending on your route, visas between Mongolia and Europe can be a challenge. If you're going through the 'Stans, start checking those out now. What passport are you travelling on? Sometimes, the visas need to be applied for in your own country.
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