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Chris! I finally got a good feeling about this and here you are with all these questions I can't answer. There good questions though. .. damn.

Some of the bikes up for sale were driving into mongolia by overlanders. others.. I don't know. They are all on Mongolian plates now. They belong to he shop selling them, I assume.
If I buy one, it will be put in my name, and that transfer should take a few days but should not be a problem.

The bikes were originally also sold in the Netherlands so we have more of them riding around. So the bike should be 'street legal', but you need to get an examination to get dutch plates. This does not come for free off course but is doable. Paying import taxes --> no idea yet. But this goes for the Dutch country, if I want to make this my regular ride.
But between the EU border and my house is a whole lot of km. I have honestly NO CLUE on what could/will happen when I hit the eu border.. I'm European. The bike is mine.. I say.. let me go through. But then again.. there a reason I don't get to make the rules.

Anyone any ideas on what could happen? Aside from not letting you get in off course! Are there import papers?

Batma. .Eh ... Blommetje

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To give you guys a short update:

- Mongolia: visum should not be a problem, get it on arrival for 30 days. (Would like this to be 60 days, anyone any tips on this?).

- Kazachstan: as a Dutchy I'm allowed free travel for 14 days! So that's good. (Will this enough? Well, it has to be I guess).

- Kyrgyzstan: Once more it pays being Dutch; 60 days without a visum

- Uzbekistan: should be able to get it, but it's to most expensive one (200 £ ). And since I'm far from a high roller, might skip this country. It blows, but you can't spend what you don't have. Not sure on what to do.

- Russia: This is where things go south. So far I found you need to get this visum in your home country, where I am not. And Russia is a big country so I have to cross is somewhere... I'll hit the embassy tomorrow and see what they can tell me. But so far, this socks (actually I typed something else but I think autocorrect is telling me something).

- What happens when I hit Europe is next on the list but that will be for tomorrow. Also, for a lot of paperwork they speak of 'letter of invite' and of showing travel papers like tickets (date of arrival). How to do this?


On the plus side: all countries have an embassy in Bangkok!


Thank you all so far, it has been a most productive day. Now kick back with a Chang and Batman on TV.

Blommetje

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I don't know about the Netherlands but as a Brit you DO need to get the visa for Russia in your home country, there maybe a few lucky people about who have managed otherwise but before I came out to Thailand/Laos for a quick fix this is what I found out when going through an agent
Hope to catch you on the road

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Chris! I finally got a good feeling about this and here you are with all these questions I can't answer. There good questions though. .. damn.

Some of the bikes up for sale were driving into mongolia by overlanders. others.. I don't know. They are all on Mongolian plates now. They belong to he shop selling them, I assume.
If I buy one, it will be put in my name, and that transfer should take a few days but should not be a problem.

The bikes were originally also sold in the Netherlands so we have more of them riding around. So the bike should be 'street legal', but you need to get an examination to get dutch plates. This does not come for free off course but is doable. Paying import taxes --> no idea yet. But this goes for the Dutch country, if I want to make this my regular ride.
But between the EU border and my house is a whole lot of km. I have honestly NO CLUE on what could/will happen when I hit the eu border.. I'm European. The bike is mine.. I say.. let me go through. But then again.. there a reason I don't get to make the rules.

Anyone any ideas on what could happen? Aside from not letting you get in off course! Are there import papers?

Batma. .Eh ... Blommetje

Fortune and Glory, kid. Fortune and Glory.
Having had a very brief glance at the drivemongolia website and seeing the testimonial page with no testimonials (!) and pictures of people riding offroad in Tshirts and not even a jacket, I would suggest you consider buying a bike from an arriving tourist.

Put up a wanted request here on the HUBB?

If the tourist were Dutch then it'd be real easy with papers, assuming you can sort it out in Holland to get the names changed.

It's also really easy to sell UK bike to a non-British person (you). Get the paperwork done in the UK and have the new papers (called a V5) in your name (at the seller's address?) posted to Mongolia.

Can't comment on the vehicle registration process for other EU countries.

So no hassle with EU importation at the Russia/Belarus border with Poland or Finland and probably much cheaper than paying 3000usd for some old dog of a bike with possibly dubious papers.
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Hi Chris,

yes, there is wanted post here. But so far nothing. I saw a Dutch couple offering the Dutch bikes they rode to UB but this guy (from the website) bought them Before I could.

I would buy a eu / dutch bike if I can of course! That's much easier. But if there are none for grabs then what? I can't just sit in UB on the highway and wait for a tourist the pass. But perhaps something comes up the coming period, although with winter in mongolia there won't be many travelers.

Once more, thanks for thinking along! Really appreciate it. Since I'm both new to bikes and overlanding it's quite a lot to take in.

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Bangkok is a big city and after over two hours of public transport and a lot of walking up and down the street while asking for directions.. I found this.

Day gone, try again tomorrow. All in the game, right!

Fortune and Glory, kid. Fortune and Glory.
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Bangkok is a big city and after over two hours of public transport and a lot of walking up and down the street while asking for directions.. I found this.

Day gone, try again tomorrow. All in the game, right!

Fortune and Glory, kid. Fortune and Glory.
Glad you made it ok, is the Embassy on Sukhumvit? I a nightmare getting from the Kao San road area

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