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Let me get this straight, once you purchase this bike, you've already invested $18k(taxes, panniers, Tourafarkle, etc.) AND you've now committed to basically bringing the bike home-add in another $4k for shipping. You're at $22k BEFORE you even hit the start button or the calculator to calculate your trip costs.
Number two…why are we even debating reliability when you've already spent $22k?? This bike is new…you better be able to put 50k miles/kms without a major mishap…or this is crap!!
The bike better be able to RTW if you're paying that much!!!
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But that's the point; one could buy a bike that does the same job for less than half the money - I can get a KLR 650, which is self serviceable, on the road, rtw ready, for $7500 USD. In fact, that's about 1/3, so you could have the bike and do the trip pretty much for what the F800GS would cost. 'Nuff said IMHO. Although I would actually like an F800GS - they look ace. I did, in fact, think of buying one with the diagnostic tool and taking a laptop with me but in the end thought that this was ridiculous and then I did the sums.....
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But that's the point; one could buy a bike that does the same job for less than half the money - I can get a KLR 650, which is self serviceable, on the road, rtw ready, for $7500 USD. In fact, that's about 1/3, so you could have the bike and do the trip pretty much for what the F800GS would cost. 'Nuff said IMHO. Although I would actually like an F800GS - they look ace. I did, in fact, think of buying one with the diagnostic tool and taking a laptop with me but in the end thought that this was ridiculous and then I did the sums.....
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Hey Doc,
Not sure of your numbers, but here in Canada it would be closer to 7/12, maybe half the cost with taxes if looking at new. (assuming you would add similar farkles on both)
They are not the same bike though. Single cylinder thumpers should be compared against other thumpers to be fair. More comparable to a DR or the 690 would be an interesting ride.
A lot depends on where and how long you ride each day, but a big benefit of twins is the reduced vibration and fatigue. Day after day, some people can really notice it, especially if you ride long days. One gets used to it as you know, where it really becomes apparent is if you switch bikes but keep a similar schedule or if one person is on a twin and the other one isn't. It's subtle but after a while one party will want to stop more frequently and for longer.
You can pick a percentage improvement, say 5%, but for me I immediately noticed that I was less fatigued when I switched bikes. Some vague arguement could be made about safety, but a tangible issue was less fatigue makes one more aware and allowed for more enjoyment from the ride. Same thing can be accomplished by going slow and stopping a lot though, so may not be as important to many.
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Why don't you address Docsherlock's points directly as presented? Suddenly you're comparing singles and twins??  .... his point was COST wasn't it? Here is what he wrote:
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But that's the point; one could buy a bike that does the same job for less than half the money - I can get a KLR 650, which is self serviceable, on the road, rtw ready, for $7500 USD. In fact, that's about 1/3, so you could have the bike and do the trip pretty much for what the F800GS would cost. 'Nuff said IMHO. Although I would actually like an F800GS - they look ace. I did, in fact, think of buying one with the diagnostic tool and taking a laptop with me but in the end thought that this was ridiculous and then I did the sums.....
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See any questions in there asking you to compare singles and twins? Point is, the KLR kicks BMW ASS in any financed based comparison you want to come up with. Maybe you work with Ben Bernanky? 
And all your comments on fatigue could be reversed if the we go off road.
Now the Twin guys will be the ones getting tired and dropping back while the single guys are having fun. 
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Why don't you address Docsherlock's points directly as presented? Suddenly you're comparing singles and twins?? .... his point was COST wasn't it? Here is what he wrote:
See any questions in there asking you to compare singles and twins? Point is, the KLR kicks BMW ASS in any financed based comparison you want to come up with. Maybe you work with Ben Bernanky?
And all your comments on fatigue could be reversed if the we go off road.
Now the Twin guys will be the ones getting tired and dropping back while the single guys are having fun. |
Mate, you are trolling. This is a post between two other members, not you, very bad form.
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