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New Royal Enfield Himalayan

Its been rumoured for a while, and we are getting closer to the public launch. In the meantime the Royal Enfield team let us have a little teaser on their new Himalayan 450….. (from ADV-Pulse)

https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/ro...ounces-launch/
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A little more rumours about the new Himalayan:

https://www.advrider.com/royal-enfie...50-dual-sport/
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Its as good as ready for launching now….

https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/ro...ts-final-form/

It lokks better than the old Himalayan me thinks. But what about weight???
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And who else than Noraly does the first real testride of the new Himalayan…

https://youtu.be/XKibLgw6JJ4?si=nVbbumnXI7PaW4-v
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Thanks for the posts, the new model looks a great improvement.
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Had these running around work when they were still in mid-development, interesting to see how the metalwork up to the dash is styled differently to what I saw ... I'm sure they're a big step forward in many ways, though to me they're not as good looking, and I'm not a fan of the way everything in the motorbike industry escalates to more power and complexity
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To be fair it isn’t just the bike industry. On the other hand the bikes of today offer reliability undreamt of thirty years ago, using so much less fuel whist developing much more power generally. Yet the bikes are now harder to service for te keen owner than ever before with lots of sealed units - however it is the sealing of those units that has, in many ways, led to the reliability we now expect. Again this is true of cars as well as bikes as well as many other products

I am hoping that the new Himalayan has retained the character of the original, I haven’t had a proper look at it yet and look forward to seeing it at the Motorcycle Show in Birmingham next month - I suspect I won’t be alone. I will try to snag a test ride on one too when they are available locally.
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Interesting discussion about «the way everything in the motorbike industry escalates to more power and complexity» I more than tend to agree with the gentlemen above here. I have come to experience that its more fun, economical and conveniant with smaller bikes with not so much fancy equipment and other stash… (I currently own two 250 cc bikes, and thats all)

But a bit strange that this discussion comes up in a post about the new Himalayan. The old Himalayan is ~200 kilograms and has 24 lazy horsepowers. It has approx the same power to weight ratio as a modern 125 cc bike.

Now that the Himalayan seems to get 40 HP and hopefully not much more weight - I can hardly see that this is a development into «more power and complexity»
Yes it gets a bit more highly needed power and a liquidcooled engine - but 40 HP and liquidcooling arent exactly noveltys in the motorbike business….

Now for the KTMs, BMWs, Africa Twins, SuperTeneres, Multistradas, Pan Americans etc etc - well thats a whole different thing….
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Don’t get me started on power to weight ratios. They tend to be meaningless. Put my daughter on a Huyabusa and it won’t make any significant difference. But me on the same bike and es, you will notice the difference - the weight of the rider is a significant proportion of the all up weight. In addition adventure riders are not exactly known for carrying small amounts of luggage.
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Gotta be careful with power to weight ratios; I had a 2021 UM DSR Adventure 125 for a few months (15hp/140Kg, cruising speed of 80kmh, but NO torque) and currently have a 2021 Tango (10hp/105Kg, cruising speed 70kmh, all the torque).

My other half has just bought a 2021 Himalayan and it's far FAR faster off the line than either those 125s and cruises at 90kmh. It's about on a par with the CBF250 (incidentally the perfect motorcycle, apart from it's emissions).

I think going from 25hp to 40hp while adding water cooling is the exact definition of more power and complexity. There are few (any?) low-tech off-roadable bikes in the region of 22-25hp with Euro5 emissions now.
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Tubeless tyres would be a plus. I don't think I will ever buy another bike with inner tubes.
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Tubeless tyres would be a plus. I don't think I will ever buy another bike with inner tubes.
After the hassle I had this year trying to get to the HU meeting in France when I had a couple of punctures I totally understand - punctures in a tubeless wheel would have been sorted very quickly.
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I did a couple of years at the HU France meetings, loved the campsite and the small scale of the event.

At one, for a laugh, I started a talk in my absolutely appalling French, but after a couple of minutes I switched to English, much to the relief of the audience.
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I did a couple of years at the HU France meetings, loved the campsite and the small scale of the event.

At one, for a laugh, I started a talk in my absolutely appalling French, but after a couple of minutes I switched to English, much to the relief of the audience.
Odd, I don't remember you from my French class as I have achieved the lofty heights of "butchering" the language. I suspect that if they were to hear me then Francophone purists may run out of the room screaming.
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Ok - some selfboasting from Royal Enfield. Power is mentioned to be 40 HP and some tourqe curve is also presented. But other facts and technical specs are not yet revealed….

https://youtu.be/keVoECYNGg4?si=GZVXego7Mt9TOTZ5
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