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It's amazing what a good seat can do for a previously unrideable bike!
Like your KTM, my DR650 was impossible to ride (for me) more than about an hour on the stock seat. A true POS torture rack.
I've ridden (and owned) KTM's for years and only my two Dukes ('01 Duke 2 and 2017 690 Duke) had marginally OK seats. Both those seats were tolerable, especially the 690 Duke, which I rode 6 to 8 hour days on.
Not great but doable.
Your 450, if fitted with a nice WIDE custom seat like a Corbin may surprise you.
A real seat made from premium materials by Pros can really make a difference for all day comfort. Using things like Sheep skins or air pads are, IMO, half measures. Something like an Air Hawk can help ... but can you do 10 hour days with it as your only buffer between a crap plank and you? Width and shape, IMO are key to comfort.
I'm quite sure the Corbin on my DR650 is the only reason I could ride back to back long days on that bike. Others make good seats and some, like James Renazco, specialize in making custom seats for KTM.
Renazco Dual Sport Seats
Back to the BMW G310. I'm sure both Corbin and Renazco will be jumping in to build a seat for this new bike.
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15 May 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mollydog
It's amazing what a good seat can do for a previously unrideable bike!
Like your KTM, my DR650 was impossible to ride (for me) more than about an hour on the stock seat. A true POS torture rack.
I've ridden (and owned) KTM's for years and only my two Dukes ('01 Duke 2 and 2017 690 Duke) had marginally OK seats. Both those seats were tolerable, especially the 690 Duke, which I rode 6 to 8 hour days on.
Not great but doable.
Your 450, if fitted with a nice WIDE custom seat like a Corbin may surprise you.
A real seat made from premium materials by Pros can really make a difference for all day comfort. Using things like Sheep skins or air pads are, IMO, half measures. Something like an Air Hawk can help ... but can you do 10 hour days with it as your only buffer between a crap plank and you? Width and shape, IMO are key to comfort.
I'm quite sure the Corbin on my DR650 is the only reason I could ride back to back long days on that bike. Others make good seats and some, like James Renazco, specialize in making custom seats for KTM.
Renazco Dual Sport Seats
Back to the BMW G310. I'm sure both Corbin and Renazco will be jumping in to build a seat for this new bike.
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I put a Seat Concepts wide seat on it. A chainsaw with two wheels still rides like a chainsaw with two wheels. 
I am going to get an AirHawk to put on my Benelli down here. I'm hoping that it'll help my bum.
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