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Old 21 Apr 2017
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Importance of high tailpipe for offroad adventure

I'm looking for my next adventure bike and I'm between the new Vstrom 650xt and the Versys300. After touring South america on a 150 and not feeling that short on power I'm definitely looking small.

My one concern is that both of these bike place their tailpipes relatively low. I'm very weak mechanically but my impression is that could cause an issue during a water crossing if a bunch of water was to get in there. Is that true? Is there any other reason to be wary of a low pipe or is this really a non issue? The other part of me feels like if this was a real problem the manufacturers wouldn't be designing them this way...
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Until BMW launched their GS range in the early 1980's most people travelled on road bikes with a low exhaust system and still went everywhere so it should not stop you travelling on these bikes. If you are after a trail bike to seek out river crossings and generally difficult terrain then buy something with a high exhaust but for travelling it is not such an issue.
If doing a river crossing with a low pipe make sure you keep the power on and you will keep going.
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With anything other than the most serious of dirtbikes, other factors will stop you long before a low exhaust does. It's not an issue.
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Riding off road, whatever that means to you, the primary issue with a low muffler is hitting it on rocks and road debris. Don't let the low exhaust stop you from going to the places you want to go. If you're exploring the places that I think of as "off road", including river crossings, you may want to cobble up a belly pan to protect the oil pan, especially on a moto with a lower ground clearance to the oil pan. The rougher it is, the more important are aggressive tires and lighter motorcycle weight.

I seem to recall you were in Peru/Colombia during the flooding a few weeks ago. Did you ride the dirt mountain roads of Peru on your 150cc moto? You are the one who can answer these questions. There is no perfect moto, and every choice has advantages and disadvantages.
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more important is to have air filter inlet high them pipe. Stay on steady throttle and water won't enter. BTW v-strom xt does not have very low exhaust anyway.

having higher ground clearance helps though.




Kawasaki versys has pipe as low as it can get and still doing fine in water:

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A downside to the current vogue or necessity- and I can't decide which it is - for high tailpipes is the extra width this imposes on the bike when luggage is fitted.
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