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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted*
On my DRZ I had soft bags and a big roll bag. A fair bit of weight but I was crossing Africa for 7 months. I don't know the exact weight but I had lots of tools and spares. I did the 3x3 power on my DRZ and had a sports exhaust and up-jetted for power. I still struggled to cruise at 65mph. I tried all sorts of gearing but the bike wasn't powerful enough for lower ratios 'with luggage'.. Kills were a pain. I was travelling with a guy on an old battered F650GS and he left me behind with ease.
The DRZ is a fine bike. It's simple, reliable, lightweight and has decent components. I would happily do another trip on one but only if it was an off-road based trip. I would pack MUCH lighter and stay away from highways.
The XRL is in the same category as the DRZ but with a bigger engine. They are just as reliable but obviously more powerful and a little more thirsty with it.
The XRL is also a very TALL bike. I'd say a little more vibey than the DRZ too. It's got a much weaker rear subframe but it's very simple to strengthen.
The XRL is hugely popular in the USA. There are sooooo many parts available. It's been going in it's current for for over 20 years. You can also get a Corbin seat for it too which it DEFINITELY needs. As does the DRZ.
If you're based in the UK or Europe then outfitted a DRZ is much easier. However, the XRL has a strong following. You can get almost everything you need for an XRL from Gab at Zen Overland. He did a RTW on his XR650L and swears it's the best bike for the job.
Tell me about your trip... Where are you going and what terrain are you covering ??
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Ted i would get 88mph out of my total standard DRZ400S on motorways which was max speed, not comfy but i screwed it like that for hours sometimes, not sure why you struggled to get 65mph and you had mods
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Ted i would get 88mph out of my total standard DRZ400S on motorways which was max speed, not comfy but i screwed it like that for hours sometimes, not sure why you struggled to get 65mph and you had mods
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Several guys in my group have (or had) DRZ400S, all would pull past 80, more like 85 mph ... at which point I'd slip by (barely) on my DR650 ... which could struggle up to about 95 mph. Maybe Ted had super low gearing? :confused1:
Although must say ... even my old "E" model DRZ would top out at 80 mph.
It was not pleasant at that speed however. The S is better on highway for sure.
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it is fact a standard DRZ is very very low maintenance, you should not tarnish its good name by putting it in brackets with a KTM when referring to maintenance issues
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Stock for stock I'd agree. I've ridden with buddies riding DRZ's ... going for days at 80 mph, then off road. Never seen a problem with one. KTM? Not so much.
But still, a good mechanic who really knows the KTM and keeps up on the shorter maintenance intervals ... can have a pretty reliable bike.
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But still, a good mechanic who really knows the KTM and keeps up on the shorter maintenance intervals ... can have a pretty reliable bike. 
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KTM is the better bike for sure but does need alot more maintenance and second hand parts like of ebay are not so available so you will be paying out your ass
Basic if my DRZ was to sh@t itself anywhere in the world with in a 10 minute search on ebay i could have the part brought sent to my family home and then fedex out in days.
KTM????
and as Ted said regarding the XRL
"I prefer the xr650l .. However, parts have to be imported from the USA if you're in Europe"
Availability to source parts fast was another reason on choosing the right bike
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KTM is the better bike for sure but does need alot more maintenance and second hand parts like of ebay are not so available so you will be paying out your ass
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I'd say "better performance bike off road", but "better" can have a variety of interpretations ... as a traveler's bike, reliability and easy maintenance has to trump pure performance, no? (does for me anyway!) Also things like comfort, vibes, packing ability et al ... all must be factored in, yea?
But preaching to the choir here ... And cheap is important too ... and KTM parts can be expensive. True, lots DRZ & XR-L used parts cheap online. KTM? Not as much, but stuff is out there ... if you have the time and help.
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"I prefer the xr650l .. However, parts have to be imported from the USA if you're in Europe"
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I did not know that.
I thought Honda sold the XR-L in UK/EU, no? In any case, having parts shipped from USA would probably be CHEAPER than shipping from EU ... and parts prices themselves would be a lot cheaper too sourced from USA.
The trick is having someone at the receiving end to expedite parts through local customs. Not so easy.  Checking in with your local embassy can sometimes present a solution.
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