My F800GS is currently on 23000 miles. First owner bought it new in 08 and rode it to Cape town. Only fault was the clutch burning out on the way.

Having fitted new chain and sprockets before he left didn't suffer that fault. He'd also fitted jubilee clips to the coolant hose, so didn't have that problem either.

I bought it at 8500 miles, and rode it to Morocco. Was faultless for me, including one stint of 828 miles in one day.

Since then, it's had a new rear wheel bearing, and a new clutch when the nut dropped off the rod - another well documented fault. Luckily both were repaired under warranty, and despite those incidents love the bike to bits - would happily take it round the world.

I accept all of the above however, after 34000 odd miles & 10 months of riding which finished today when the bike was shipped home, I believe my comments are valid.

Bikes I met on route that came off the production line two years (two years!!!) after mine suffered from the same woes (& much, much more).

Parts availability??? A three week wait for a dud water pump in Santiago, Chile - does that fall within the definition of parts availabilty?

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, sadly after all those miles, day after day (for 10 months!) my opinion of the BMW F800GS is not a good one.

Perhaps I should have changed all the component parts in preparation for this trip but that's exactly the opposite reason to why I buy a bike - as a complete package. I niavely rely on the manufacturer to have done the ground work, after all the F800 isn't marketed as a cafe racer.

& I've had three BMW's. An 1150 Adv & a 1200 Adv just in case my opinion of the F800 & the BMW brand would carry any less weight had I not have mentioned that.

By all means buy one. I just wanted to detail my experience.

Mountain man

Will see you in Nakusp if my 650 GS makes it past the Port Mann without multiorgan failure!! sp

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Tim, a bit OT, but how has the 660 Tenere held up? They look like great bikes, any problems with it (other than not being available where I live...)?

The Tenere had 3,000km when I bought it and is now on about 24,000 I think (not seen it for several months as it's in Spain).

The major problem that many have encountered is a poor connection between the wiring loom and the rectifier. My bike also had this problem, see attached pics, and it took six weeks for the dealer in Spain to get approval to do the work under warranty, get the parts in, and do the work. Fortunately that was at the end of a seven-week trip to Morocco.

I also had to get the steering head bearings replaced. They were badly corroded (!) and it took a couple of hours to get them out.

The other problem I'm not used to is tubed tyres with inner tubes which are a real pain in the ass. But generally a lovely bike that inspires confidence.

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Smudger - I'd like to ask you about your experiences comparing these three bikes - but don't want to hijack this thread. I only have well, 2 posts now, so I'm not allowed to PM you. Can you PM me, so I can respond with a couple questions or share a direct email address with me?

I currently own a 1200Adv, had a 1150Adv too.

OK...back the regularly scheduled program..

I think that F800GS is a very good bike, there are thousands out there, some of them had problems, but I would like to know how many ( talking in %). I have one, now with 49.000km with no mayor problems, only valve cover gasket with 11.000km.
Al the time 2up (all the time, yes), offroad (Marocco), all Europe, and now we are on the way to Mongolia, pamir, etc..
I would not choose other bike for adventure traveling (2up), maybe to go alone a 650 dakar.

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Now preparing the requested rescue trailer for my 800 and the many others that will require assistance in Nakusp this summer. I will be taking suggestions on which dealer to haul to for repair. Please have your warranty cards and ownership documents ready to better facilitate the repairs required. MountainMan will have first dibs for his brilliant idea that clearly will be very profitable for yours truly. Oh crap I forgot my bike will be requiring the trailer as well.

Nakusp here we come (if my bike makes it that is,wish me luck). Whoop whoop!!

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Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.

Last year i rode so many different adventure bikes it got beyond a joke. I wanted to replace my faithful Vstrom 650 with something a bit more powerful. Rode the BMW's both the 1200 and 800. The 1200 was way to cumbersome and was out of the running straight away. The GS800 was an ex demo they were trying to get ride of and it felt terrible. It rattled so much I was looking for bits falling off. The gearbox was fine for the test ride but I could feel that once in the loose stuff it would be a problem. I had also heard lots of stories. The Tiger at that time was not an adventure bike just an upright tourer. Seriously looked at the 1000Vstrom but the shop would not let test ride so that was the end of that. In the end I walked into a KTM dealer who had two 09 990 adventures he wanted clearing off the floor. He let me test ride a bike even though it was brand new. The bike felt good standing and sitting and I could feel the bike would not be embarrassed when the roads turned to crap or disappeared.

Glad to say I am still happy a year after buying the bike. I have done trips into the Aussie bush 2 up with far to much gear on board, organised adventure rides that reminded me of my enduro days and recently did the loop from Brisbane to Alice springs and back on the seal with my wife who was riding her CBF 1000. The bike has never let me down and has had some rough handling. My only bitch is the need to carry octane booster everywhere as you can not run anything less than premium fuel for more than one tank. I think this is a problem for a lot of modern adventure bike though.

What ever you chosoe I hope you still love it after owning a year.

Left New Jersey with 3200 miles of break in, no issues prior to leaving.

Modifications (for a 6'3" rider)
- Madstad 22" windscreen (adjustable pitch and height, love it)
- BMW touring seat (forget the stock enduro seat, built for those that mostly stand on the pegs...)
- Beadseat (thousands of truck and taxi drivers can't be wrong, they aren't)
- Foam sleeves for hand grips (helps smooth the throttle action, not installed for vibration)
- PIAA Cross Country (love them regardless of various blub failures, now discontinued)
- ScottOiler (can get messy, hate oiling chain all the time, also carried spray and used from time to time.)
- Roxs Handle bar riser
- AltRider bash plate
- AltRider crash bars (love them)

Failures (during 32,500 miles / 9 month trip through CA, then clockwise around SA, boat to Cuba, boat to Cancun, MX and back to New Jersey)

- Burnt low beam bulb (south of Salvador, BR)
- Front chain sprocket lost a tooth (somewhere south of Salvador BR, replaced in Sao Paulo, BR, replaced chain and back sprocket while at it.)
- Oil heat exchange caught a rock (despite the AltRider bash plate...replaced by private mechanic in Buenos Aires, AR)
- Chain broke on country road in Bolivia (repaired without chain breaker tool, still riding on same chain. May have been caused by rock or poor lubrication?)
- Rear wheel bearing (replaced with generic bearings, Cusco, Peru)
- Battery failed (near the last leg, south of Mexico City, covered by warranty when I got home, but had to buy one in DF)

Criticism
- 4.1 gallon / 16 liter gas tank is too small. The 2013 model has more capacity.
- How can BMW sell a GS (enduro!) with a tiny side stand pad?
- Gas gauge does not update fuel level well...jumps from near full to 1/4 full. I use the odometer and wait for the low fuel light to come on. Best practice is to fill up when your tank is half empty...

Experience
- With large load on back of bike the front tire has little braking traction when stopping on steep inclines...back wheel failed to grab on gravel and another time on cobble stone, sliding backwards, not a pretty story. This could happen with any bike.
- Responsive off road. I rode mostly on paved surface except:

• A couple hours off road north of Lake Atitlan, GU.
• Several hundred miles of dirt, clay and some sand in Guyana.
• More dirt and gravel entering Brazil from French Guiana, ~100 miles
• Dirt roads in Argentina (off road riding for a few hours, then getting to a camping site for a stage of the Dakar Rally)
• A few hundred miles of dirt entering Bolivia from Yacuiba and riding to Tarija...)
• Maybe 50 miles of dirt northwest of Sucre, BO and miles and miles deep truck grooves south of La Paz...I still get nightmares from these...

- I found the gear ratio to be fine, but what do I know. This is my second bike and I don't have a lot of off road experience.
- Plenty of power, but had trouble keeping up the 1200's =)

Final word
Glad I had this bike when off road, plenty of power/speed on highway. I travel solo most of the time and don't ride dirt roads by choice, unless riding with others, so not that many miles logged on dirt. The F800GS has plenty of height for bumps, might be too high for vertically challenged riders. Rode an 21 year old K75 during a Central America trip in 2008-09 and had issues finding parts in some locations. Decided to get a late model BMW and rely on dealers in almost every country (I think there are three countries in Latin America without a BMW dealer.)
The bike is larger than most will need. I wanted the power for after the trip, not while in Latin America. It is light enough that I could pick it up, sometimes I had to remove luggage, but could always recover when dropping bike.
Yeah, BMW is expensive and I think its worth it. I did not suffer engine or structural problems once. Sure there will be small mechanical problems with this bike, as with any bike.
Wish I had maintenance statistics across the whole production run. Individual experiences can be misleading.

I hope this is useful to someone.

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2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.

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