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Originally Posted by outwestrider
So ... like you I live in CO - opposite side on the Western Slope - lots of mixed riding here as well - and as others have said - personal preference and riding style will dictate your choice ... keep in mind I ride solo in remote areas in the West regularly - no easy help / cell service, etc. and a conservative and intermediate level of skill off road / typically ride loaded with light weight camping gear in travel style ... here's my take
1. Currently have a DL650 - Awesome Road and gravel road bike solo and 2 up - as you've experienced - dangerous for anything challenging off road for my skill level and areas of back-country / available help, level of confidence - no fun to pick up off road - but bike is well set up to crash - loaded for travel with top box and soft panniers ... around 535-545#
2. Had a DR650 - DR was ok solo - better road than off road for me due to skill and the weight - although have to say and have seen this bike to be very capable off road in the right hands - just not mine - limped my way through the White Rim Trail in Moab loaded up a few years back, SAND kills my confidence even after several trainings ... cramped 2 up and not used this way very often by me - had all the usual mods to make it dirt worthy/ travel ready and "crash-able" - still a bear to pick up when napping, especially when loaded for travel - rear rack (no top box) and soft panniers - about 405-410#
3. Had a KLX250 - under powered for altitude - but easy off road and easy to pick up ... you are a slow moving target on the road with the 75 mph zones out by me - fully loaded up for bike camping and travel - topped out @ 65mph jetted and piped ... around 325-335#
4. And the winner for solo riding / travel / and off road ... my other bike ... a lightly used / lowered 2007 DRZ400S - not as good for long highway slogs as my DL650 the DR650 or your CBX RR choice; not as light or easy to pick up as my previous KLX250 off road - but easier by far than either of your choices - a whopping 46# lighter than the DR650 - your CBX RR splits between your old DL and the DR ... DRZ, fully loaded w/ bike camping and travel gear - soft panniers and rear duffel... around 340-355#.
For Me - the DRZ is good enough for a steady hour or 3 to safely travel on the posted 75 mph highway around me to get to dirt or gravel - it is buzzy at this speed, but manageable and I accept it - and - for my style of solo riding in often remote areas - a goldilocks between my DL650, my old DR650 and KLX250. Jenny @ Rally Raid makes the CBX RR look easy in all the "Hard" places I ride - as do others on their DR650's - that wouldn't be me ...
Overall Cost to achieve your mileage goal I think would be fairly equal - though it would be 1 CBX RR package or 2 fully done DR650's or DRZ400's for similar distance.
Gauge your Confidence, Skill and Where you want to go - pick the bike that covers the aspect of holding that confidence in the least desirable circumstances for your skill and is the least objectionable in it's area of weakness for where you want to go ...
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Hey Outwest,
Thanks for the response. It sounds like you and I have very similar riding tastes and abilities, and you bring up a good point. Almost all of my riding is solo, and I've watched a few YouTube videos of guys riding over some Colorado passes, and that gives me some pause. I'd hate to get in a situation that I needed help.
Actually, the DRZ was a big part of my interest in the DR650, and also my concern.
A few years ago, I had a friend/acquaintance with a DRZ400 who took some epic multi-month trip around North America. I really admired her bike; really got me interested in something like that.
But I noticed that she kept having problems with the bike. It seemed like it was breaking down every week. And then she had to have it in the shop for some major work at one point.
I asked her about it, and she responded with something to the effect of, "Well, it has 40,000 miles on it. Of course it's going to need some work."
...and that was kind of the deal-breaker for me. At the time, my V-Strom had nearly 100,000 miles on it, and it had never needed anything other than brake pads and oil changes. I would eventually put 40,000
more miles on that bike, again without anything but regular maintenance, before selling it. As far as I know, it's still on the road.
I realize her bike is just one example, and to her, the bike was still perfect for what she wanted, but I guess I got so used to the utter reliability of the big twin that the thought of a bike that needs an overhaul so "soon" turns me off.
It's hard for me to judge my own abilities... I feel pretty confident on a bike, and when I had my V-Strom, I took it in a lot of places where I was probably in over my head. Nothing dangerous, but just a lot of work. But I almost always made it.
I recall on my trip through Mexico, I met up with a rider on a KLR. We went up a rutted, gravel mountain road with tight switchbacks. On the way back down, the KLR guy said he was going to go on ahead because it was getting dark and his headlight was terrible. He wanted to get down to the bottom before dark. So he took off. I followed right behind him all the way down, and when we got to the bottom, he expressed shock that I was able to keep up with him on my "big" bike.
That said, I've never owned a real dual-sport.
In another incident, I led a group of riders on an afternoon ride through some moderately twisty roads in Tennessee. Several of the guys were on cruisers. One guy was on a sportbike. After lunch, I said to the group that the next section was especially curvy and I was going to pick up the pace a bit, and if they wanted to hang back, we'd all regroup at the next intersection. The sport bike guy was the only one who stayed with me, and when we stopped, he stated that he'd never leaned his bike over so far.
That's not to overstate my riding abilities, but it goes to show the versatility of the V-Strom. I'm kind of looking for the same type of experience.
As Snakeboy said above, I can't go wrong with either bike. But I'm just trying to narrow down the fine details to figure out if one or the other would be better suited for me.
Jamie