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Originally Posted by island Doug
Unless you plan a lot of riding on dirt consider a Yamaha TDM. Dead reliable ,cheap 2nd hand and your pillion will thank you. On dirt I'd go with the vstrom. How you ride it is what makes them exciting.
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I traded in my TDM when I got my Vstrom. I put about 30K miles on my TDM, all year riding on California roads. No comparison really.
First off ... the TDM is a torture rack two up compared to the Vstrom. Vstrom has better seat, has more room for two, handles better, is faster and stops better. Also fantastic when loaded with luggage. Very easy to load up.
The NEW DL1000 is especially good ... but many many well set up used Vstroms around too for cheap. I recommend the 1000 over the 650 for two up. Ridden BOTH bikes a lot, owned two DL1000's.
My TDM was reliable but really a poor handling bike. Not easy to work on. Also, the 17" X 17" Tires means no Off Road. Scary off road (I did it on mine). The Stroms all have 19" front wheels so TKC80 knobbies can be fit ... They transform the Vstrom ... it's actually pretty good on dirt roads, and a great LD touring bike.
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