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Just to update this thread... I’ve currently racked up over 11,000 miles on my G310GS now - from Virginia to California, then back across the country to Toronto, and now I’m heading back west again - currently in Colorado...

I have to say, it continues to impress - both off-road (admittedly with the Rally-Raid suspenson fitted of course) and also on - and while it’s forte may not necessarly be high mileage long highway days, it can easily do that too if required... I was in Des Moines Iowa this morning, and now I’m a stones throw from Denver Colorado.

Like tossed salads and scrambled eggs, the mountains are calling again...

Goodnight everybody!

Jx

Ps. If anyone is interested in my bike and the Rally-Raid upgrades in general, Juan just posted a new video from our week in Moab in May this year:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng7oFzQ9QHU
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Ps. If anyone is interested in my bike and the Rally-Raid upgrades in general, Juan just posted a new video from our week in Moab in May this year:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng7oFzQ9QHU
curious if there is such kit available for nc750x as IMO it has much better engine torque wise then e.g. CB500x and I did on this bike plenty of off-road, e.g. in Morocco. Only limitation is ground clearance and weight, excellent handling bike off-road.
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curious if there is such kit available for nc750x as IMO it has much better engine torque wise then e.g. CB500x and I did on this bike plenty of off-road, e.g. in Morocco. Only limitation is ground clearance and weight, excellent handling bike off-road.
Hi Tremens - if you’ve spent any time on the ADVrider forum threads regarding the CB, I feel I’ve explained why John (at Rally-Raid) and I felt the CB was a much better platform for an all-terrain Adventure bike than the NC range.

In a nutshell, as you say, it has limited ground clearance, a much longer wheelbase and is significantly heavier - an ADV kit for that bike would mean it competes directly with the already established 750/800c class such as the Triumph Tiger and 700/800 GS of course - all of which are competent and cabable larger ADV bikes out of the showroom. In fact I’d suggest the only thing the NC would really have in its favour is the DCT transmission option.

The point of the CB is that it is a phyiscally smaller and lighter bike, but that still has the [twin cylinder] on road performance of those larger bikes, while being more nimble and managable when you go off road - and as you are probably aware, I have taken the CB seriously off-road, including the Rubicon Trail.

Hope that clrifies things...

Jenny x

ps. Rally-Raid do offer upgraded and adjustable suspension components for the NC model, but not longer travel, spoked wheels or engine guards etc.
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Recall notice

FYI -

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...ect-2017-2018/

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that's the quality of today's bikes, lunch the product and next day there is a recall...where did the QA took place? BMW, Honda, Yamaha all are the same now.
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To be fair, it is only a handful of bikes that have suffered - but enough now for BMW to do something about it of course.

for info. The issue is where the tube that the side-stand pivot bolt goes through, is welded to the tab on the frame. Some bikes appear to have more weld than others, and some of the ones that apparently have less weld have had the joint crack and in some cases the tube bracket has snapped off.

I agree with Tremens that this sort of thing should really have been addressed as part of the initial quality control - but presumably the issue didn't come to light until the bikes started being used.

As I understand it, the fix [an additional support bracket] for existing models is being rolled out to all affected territories, and all later production batches revised have received a revised specification and better Quality Control.

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Just saw this thread and I may have a bit of input. I've been trying one in the moroccan desert in february. How it happened was actually quite funny :

We've been riding along the algerian border with 3 friends and were staying in a bivouac (touareg style tents that you can rent for the night) and after diner we saw some fellow exhausted riders come in. Middle Aged german that came all the way from germany to have try a bit those GS310. Funny thing is that they arrived by car, with their support vehicle. They had ditched the bikes in the desert 15 to 30 kms ago, when they couldn't manage to get past the fech fech track.

Full of confidence after riding for a week in the sand (with bikes ranging from 250 two-strokes to husqy 701) we offered to recover the bikes for them if they could manage the truck to drop us on the location.
We've been there in pitch black night and found the bikes deeply in sand with the OEM tyres and OEM tyre pressure ! Obviously, this is going to be hard without knobblies.... And it was! The standing position was a nightmare and there was way to much weight on the front end to manage anything good...the suspensions was overwhelmed by everything that came at it. The ground clearance could have been way better and the seat was way to low for you to get your foot out in sitting position (for exemple in a rut curve)

Don't get me wrong : going straight for the desert with OEM suspensions and OEM tubeless tires and trying to ride in deep sand is pure madness. Those guys didn't have a clue what they were getting into. But even with better suspensions and knobblies, I doubt this bike could go for this type of terrain. The overall bike is too heavy especially the front end, and the standing position isn't good for me. If I wanted something in this price/power range, I would go for a CRF250L, especially knowing that the heavy GS310 isn't more comfy...
But surely, this type of track isn't what this bike is made for...It is more road oriented. You know the saying; If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree...
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Just saw this thread and I may have a bit of input. I've been trying one in the moroccan desert in february. How it happened was actually quite funny :

We've been riding along the algerian border with 3 friends and were staying in a bivouac (touareg style tents that you can rent for the night) and after diner we saw some fellow exhausted riders come in. Middle Aged german that came all the way from germany to have try a bit those GS310. Funny thing is that they arrived by car, with their support vehicle. They had ditched the bikes in the desert 15 to 30 kms ago, when they couldn't manage to get past the fech fech track.

Full of confidence after riding for a week in the sand (with bikes ranging from 250 two-strokes to husqy 701) we offered to recover the bikes for them if they could manage the truck to drop us on the location.
We've been there in pitch black night and found the bikes deeply in sand with the OEM tyres and OEM tyre pressure ! Obviously, this is going to be hard without knobblies.... And it was! The standing position was a nightmare and there was way to much weight on the front end to manage anything good...the suspensions was overwhelmed by everything that came at it. The ground clearance could have been way better and the seat was way to low for you to get your foot out in sitting position (for exemple in a rut curve)

Don't get me wrong : going straight for the desert with OEM suspensions and OEM tubeless tires and trying to ride in deep sand is pure madness. Those guys didn't have a clue what they were getting into. But even with better suspensions and knobblies, I doubt this bike could go for this type of terrain. The overall bike is too heavy especially the front end, and the standing position isn't good for me. If I wanted something in this price/power range, I would go for a CRF250L, especially knowing that the heavy GS310 isn't more comfy...
But surely, this type of track isn't what this bike is made for...It is more road oriented. You know the saying; If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree...
The weight of the BMW 310 GS and all the other small adv bike that has been released the last couple of years is what is bothering me. By all means - its great that many manufacturers have come up with small capacity adv bikes but when the weight scale is tipping 170-180 kilograms and more for most of them Im not sure if its really a small bike.

BMW 310 GS - wet weight 169,5 kilos
Kawasaki Versys 300 - wet weight 175 kilos
Suzuki V-Strom 250 - wet weight 188 kilos
Honda Crf 250 Rally - wet weight - 157 kilos
Royal Enfield Himalayan - wet weight 191 kilos
Benelli Trek 502 - wet weight 213 kilos

For comparison:
KTM 690 - wet weight 150 kilos
Husqvarna 701 - approx 155 kilos
Suzuki Dr 650 - wet weight 166 kilos

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Jenny are you being sponsored by BMW? or did you buy this bike with your hard earnt money?
I bought it myself back in April this year.

Currently I'm running a blog on ADVrider, but will be condensing that (as I have done with my previous trips) as a dedicated ride report here on the HUBB once I've finished this trip at the end of August and have some time to go through it all.

I'll also be at the Horizons Canada-West event in a couple of weeks, plus California at the end of September - with the bike and my latest AV presentation about the trip this summer.

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