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Amazing , kilometer per liter.

Hola , Hello,
A few weeks ago i got ivited by a friend to do a 4 day short trip on motorbikes .
I had problems with my bike so i ended up with a spare bike of my mate.It was a honda dream neo 110cc.(with a new HONDA eco tech, HET )
It is light and nippy, almost feels like a bicicle.

.Every time filling up the tank, it turend out to use only 1 liter for every 69/71 kilometers.First i could not believe it, but it was a fact.
The 8 liter tank could bring me over 550km far.
I am not a freak on milage or kmpl, but i was suprised.
I had a few 125cc and they gave mostly 35km per liter.


Did i mis power? Yes!
Was it fun? Yes!!

I just throught i let you know,
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For the American readers , if i am right , this would be about,
159 Miles per gallon.

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Impressive, I have just worked that out to be almost 200 miles to the imperial gallon, my XR125 does between 110-120 mpg so a vast improvement.
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For the American readers , if i am right , this would be about,
159 Miles per gallon.

Saludos .

That will be US gallons.
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That will be US gallons.
Exectly US,
, dont know about euro gallon
I a lot more money on drinks then on gas!
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That's great mileage and just shows how things have moved on. My mid 70's Suzuki 120 (a slow ride to work bike and not sporty at all) normally does somewhere around 27-8kpl (about 75 UKmpg). Ride it flat out and it'll drop to around 22-3. Makes me wonder where it all goes as I can't even overtake trucks with it.
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Great litle bike ,
Weights about 100kg.
No good for highway, it is more a fast moped.
it is made by honda India where a high kpl/kpm is very important i just found out.
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it is made by honda India where a high kpl/kpm is very important i just found out.
Interesting statistics for the fuel consumption.
Perhaps Royal Enfield (also manufacturing in India) have spotted this competition to their products - it would be surprising if they had not.

I believe that RE have started up a design facility somewhere in Europe - I forget the detail of which country - and they are employing that Ducati bike designer, Terblanche, to bring on the next RE products.
Pierre Terblanche Leaves Confederate for Royal Enfield

Maybe Terblanche can do something about the RE engine range; there again, maybe not.
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Intresting ,

One of the biggest motorcycle Brands in India named "Hero" now has Eric Buell on board for there designs.
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Erik n Hero r not working together as ebr has been closed n up for bid
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I believe that RE have started up a design facility somewhere in Europe - I forget the detail of which country - and they are employing that Ducati bike designer, Terblanche, to bring on the next RE products.
Pierre Terblanche Leaves Confederate for Royal Enfield
Maybe Terblanche can do something about the RE engine range; there again, maybe not.
Terblanche's work history has dealt pretty much with styling, not engine design. This goes back to Ducati where he played an important role. (Ducati 916, Monster among others styling hits)

I've followed the California trained Terblanche for years ... kind of disappointed he went to Confederate. I'm glad he left ... very mysterious paring.
But his going to Royal Enfield is also a weird one. Not sure how he'll fit in there? Seems Royal Enfield must stick to their traditional designs? Be interesting to see what Terblanche can offer.
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One of the biggest motorcycle Brands in India named "Hero" now has Eric Buell on board for there designs.
Right, as mentioned, that relationship is DONE. EBR now out of business. However ... Hero has already put into production (in India) several EBR bike designs, all have been in the press. Some interesting bikes using local Hero motors with cool EBR styling.

Details on the EBR/Hero break up are currently in short supply ... but I'm sure it will all eventually come out. It's a shame really as the EBR World Super Bike race team were actually doing good ... for a first year race team. I don't think Hero have the shoes for racing. They are used to getting everything cheap ... welcome to the real world.
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Thats great for milage for that bike.

I rented a Honda CB500X last weekend and rode more than 2000 kms here in northern Thailand. And by all means - not economically at all. Pushed hard on highways, slowly over and through twisty mountain roads, through traffic jams in citys etc etc and came out with a milage that I was very impressed with.

Around 0,28-0,29 liter pr 10 km.

Or 35-36 km pr liter.

Or 100 miles pr Imperial gallon

Or 82-83 miles pr US gallon.

Ok its only a 500 ccm and 48 hp, but oh so accesible they were. And really great milage too....
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Are Honda the only motorcycle manufacturer making an effort to produce an economical range of bikes? Between the 110cc and 500cc bikes mentioned above and the NX750 they must have one of the most fuel efficient ranges available, unless others know different.
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Are Honda the only motorcycle manufacturer making an effort to produce an economical range of bikes? Between the 110cc and 500cc bikes mentioned above and the NX750 they must have one of the most fuel efficient ranges available, unless others know different.
Honda's latest bikes are pretty amazing! That 500 P-Twin motor would make a PEACH ADV type travel bike. 48 HP is plenty for me. Put it in a nice strong, light weight steel chassis, 21" front, 17 or 18" rear, good ground clearance, quality suspension, big forks, tough DID wheels, luggage/passenger capable. I think it would be a HIT if they could keep the price within reason.

BMW have also been doing very well regards economy. But their smallest bike is 650cc. But they go 65 to 70 MPG (US). By contrast, my DR650 (Carb) is lucky to get 50 mpg)

Yamaha also doing interesting things. Not MPG wise, but initial cost wise. That's economical too, yes?

Both FZ-07 & FZ-09 are very good value for money. But neither do very well on saving fuel. (40 to 45 mpg) The FZ-07, 700cc Parallel twin is already being used as a Flat Track racer here in USA and rumors suggest Yamaha have "other" ideas for this motor/platform. Both FZ's are priced low ($7K for 07, $8K for 09 (USD))

Both are VERY light weight (both lighter than Yamaha R-6) Motors are ALL NEW designs, so light, smooth jewels with solid reliability. (so far) And both run super clean! (lean burn, CAT convertors)

I see great potential in the FZ-07 motor as a ADV Dual Sport Travel bike, if adapted into another chassis. Like a mini Tenere' if you will. Lighter, lower, Cheaper, more economical ... and cleaner. Puts out about 70 HP.

So far, we only hear rumors about this ... but I'm convinced Yamaha will do something interesting with the FZ-07.

Honda are more conservative, slower to move ... but are OUT FRONT of most others (save BMW) in going green with their bikes .... and GOOD FOR THEM! Instead of a HUGE re-do of the Africa Twin, I'd much rather see a smaller bike using the CB500X motor built around a real ADV chassis.

We all have to face this reality now. Enjoy your Big, polluting bike while you can. THESE ARE THE GOOD OLD DAYS!
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