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Advice on Chinese motorbikes

Hi,

I have to admit, I'm very new to the world of motorbikes. Took up riding about 6 months ago in Liberia on a 100cc Bajaj Boxer, which is pretty much the only thing I've ever ridden. I'm looking to upgrade, but don't want to spend too much. I don't have the time or patience to find a good used Japanese bike and am looking at a couple of Chinese bikes:
- JCM Superflash 150
- Royal Super RYGY 150-1

However, I can't seem to find much info on these on the net - not a good sign, me thinks. Anybody have any insight into these? E.g.,: are they relatively reliable? Will they fall apart on a longer trip? Or are replacement parts available?

Any input is greatly appreciated.

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If you're riding through China they're great, otherwise I'd get something the rest of the world has heard of. ;o)
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I have never owned a Chinese bike but know a few who have, they are generally rubbish with poor build quality and made of the cheapest materials. If you only want to commute a short distance to work or occasional rideouts you might find one useful but for nothing more than that.
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Take a look at the new TBM magazine (uk)

TBM / TRAIL BIKE & ENDURO MAGAZINE / DIRT JUNKIES

They have a review of a couple of Chinese 230cc bikes in there.
They seem to be slightly surprised how good one of them is.......

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My wife and I rented a bike in Saigon HCM City. I brought it back to the hotel and they went nuts thinking I was going to drive it to Danang. It was a Chinese one so I took it back and got a Japanese one and they all felt much better with me renting that. It ran fine so I would look further from what they told me.
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my first ever motorbike was a Chinese 150cc chun-lan which looks like honda innova. it was crap tho. after 2000 miles I've sold it.
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I used to sell kymcos. They are worse than bad.
I take it then you would not recommend one for a 5 year RTW trip?
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I take it then you would not recommend one for a 5 year RTW trip?
I wouldn't take one for a 5 minute "round the block" lol..

They are simply dreadful. 70% return rate on some models. The carbs were made by fisher price and used to overflow and flood all the time, the electrics were wired by children and the fasteners and fittings would rust overnight..

I used to plead for customers upgrade to a used Jap model but they still used to come back and complain even though I told them they were shite !!
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Japan Vs China

You will be able to find one that is fine if you treat it with care and check it all the time but I chose my bike based on the info that it was much less likely to break and then if it did could I access parts and help relatively easily.

Go for the best you can get that fits your budget but I would get a Japanese bike if I had the choice.
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You often here it said about Chinese bikes
"it's a copy of an XR200 so it must be fine"

Just to put that into perspective, I could have a go at making a copy of Helicopter but I doubt you'd want to fly in it.

My mate bought a "Honduki" or some such name, CG125 clone for his wife to learn on and do her test. After only a few months, everything was rusty and corroded. It had about half the power of a proper CG and all the controls were crap and bits fell off. She did complete her test but the bike was prety much scrap by the time she did.

Some Chinese bikes must be OK as most "Western" manufacturere of almost anything get some/most/all of the parts made in China.

But, I'd rather ride an older Jap bike any day.
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I take it then you would not recommend one for a 5 year RTW trip?
Funny you should say that... it's not 5 years or RTW, but I've bought one of these and am part way through riding it across south amerca.
Here's mine below:


It's an enduro style bike, the farings lie "250cc" on the side, then the manual admids 229cc, 16HP, I met a guy with the same bike who's manual claims 23HP from an identical engine, his has blown up twice after less than 9,000KM... and neither of ours can hit 100KPH, it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in my machine, but either way it should make a good read for someone.

-If anyone's interested to read about some of the adventure and bike specs it's all here Making it up on a motorbike. | China's 2 wheeled revenge on Latin America.


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I used to sell kymcos. They are worse than bad.

I had the chance to ride a little bit on a hyosung 250 comet and I don't think the Hyosung bikes are such crap (but i admit they are not refined as a japanese bike). They have now a 450cc (RX 450) that looks really interesting and i'd like to have the chance to try it someday.

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