I agree, although not big like 1200GS or super tenere but at least 650cc
otherwise the trip will last forever.
50cc let face it, it's a joke, isn't it?

Yep it's a joke.
By big bike I meant size around 600cc on which you can carry some decent gear but on a 50cc.....errrr ok where is my toothbrush.

No, sitting at home being a keyboard warrior taking the p**s out of other people's plans is a joke, getting out there and making a trip no matter how far or on what bike is the real thing.

You took the words out of my mouth (or fingers), mark!

I have never undertaken an expedition myself, but the original poster 'shikkagga' was thinking of riding from Europe on a 50cc because that is what he is licensed for. He linked an ebay ad for a cheap Chinese full-size enduro with a 50cc engine. I think part of the problem is that everyone thinks he is trying to be eccentric riding a moped, which was not the case (so the 'joke' issue is moot).

Some of us suggested bigger engines just so he could factor in the weight of carrying things. I could see a Chinese enduro with a 125cc engine realistically doing the job. On one of the threads about riding through Africa, someone who was riding his Suzuki 650 was met by a friend who bought a 250 Chinese enduro. He rode with his friend for over 6000 miles, and the bike did not miss a beat mechanically other than the stock chain kept stretching until he could no longer adjust it, and a new chain could not be found since they had left civilization. The guy on the 650 who was writing the reports (he is still in Africa riding and writing) never mentioned feeling slowed down by the smaller bike.

The poster here had read the same thread, and decided, for licensing purposes, he would fly to Africa and look for a larger engine bike to purchase and ride throughout several countries (licensing meaning he wouldn't need one where he is planning to go!).

I am sure that he knows who is actually trying to help, and who is a snob. Heck, even the guy who chimed in above with the 1100 BMW mentioned how he was passed by locals on Chinese 125 bikes on tough terrain in Morrocco. I don't think a 50cc would quite cut it, but I never felt the guy was joking; just wanted some opinions based on what his original limitations were (50cc license). It is like that old saying--'if you don't have anything nice or constructive to say to somone, then keep your mouth shut!'

by that stupid thinking you can do any trip on any means of transportation
even on foot or a bicycle so in that case asking such question is pointless.
Why ask here anyway if you expect only conformation on your crazy ideas???

If that what's you want go ahead and good luck, you will need it
I also think, it's irresponsible to advice such trip on such small bike because Africa is not safe continent as may think.


p.s.
BTW on 50cc you won't be able even to escape a lions if they decide to eat you

Enough said!

While agree that any 125cc or bigger is better, riding Africa on a moped has already been done:
African Moped Ouagadougou - Paris en mob!

These are all good points, but he has already decided to change his plans and look for a bike in Africa--preferably Kenya. He already stated he wasn't riding a 50cc for the sake of riding one, but due to his European license restrictions. It was a full-size Chinese enduro he was eyeing, not a moped (although they might be licensed as such), which had a 50cc engine.

What he needs now is advice on what bike and where to buy one. Using another thread as a baseline, I told him he should consider a 229cc Chinese bike like the one the guy rode in the 'Round Africa with a surfboard' because he got it cheap in Cape Town, and it got him the 6000 miles from Cape Town to Tanzania with no mechanical issues other than a chain stretching. There are also plenty of 125cc bikes available, too.

Now that we know he will consider a bigger bike, again, he needs advice on what bike to get. A used 'proper' bike (assuming one with 600cc or larger) from Europe won't do because he cannot legally ride it. So flying into Africa--start with Kenya, although I said to look into S. Africa due to the thread I referred to where the guy bought his with seemingly few paperwork issues. Any other suggestions on a bike, 600cc or not, to be found in Africa I am sure the poster would appreciate.

HE IS NOT BUYING A 50CC BIKE

Read this blog, which is informative, but if you skip to page 6, this is where his friend joined him and bought a cheap Chinese bike in Cape Town. This bike was more than adequate as compared to the poster's 650 Suzuki.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...fboard-72401-6

Why not just take the airplane and get it over with? Ever heard the concept of "the journey is the goal, not the final destination"?

I have been traveling around europe and india on 125 and 150cc bikes, there have been people doing RTW trips on small machines with great success and having tons of fun!

From time to time i have considered getting a 50cc machine, nor for the sake of being eccentric but to spend more time on the road, seeing more details, making more frequent stops etc. If my knees weren't damaged i would have traveled on a bicycle.

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oh please, don't take literally every metaphorical slogan you find on the internet. If you travel without destination you're just a drifter or a bum.

Well, each to his own ... to me, drifting is fun. If this makes me a bum, I don´t give a rat´s ass.

Thank you guys for all the informations and opinions and especially yuma for your understanding... I already found a way to get a bike in kenya. but i will look into s.a. as well and will contact the surfboard guy soon... thanks

Is it a new bike or used? What kind of costs? What size engine? I would think that SA would be straightforward as long as you can find a local citizen whose address you can use, which is what the surfer guy said his friend did. Like I mentioned earlier, the northern SA city of Johannesburg is in relative close proximity to Botswana; the only thing is you would have to reverse your trip which might or might not fit your plans.