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Buying a bike in SE Asia that can be taken accross borders

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I'm planning to spend 6 months riding around SE Asia next year and would like to do it all on the same motorcycle. So, I was wondering which country is the best for buying a bike that I can register in my own name that I can take across national borders with minimum hassle?
I've done a bit of touring (on various Honda step-thus) in North Thailand, Cambodia, South Java (from Bali) and Vietnam in recent years but this time I'd like to cover the lot on a larger more comfy machine (except 'Nam and Burma) in one long trip and ideally ending up in the same country where I bought my bike, so I can sell it again.
I'm not sure which sort of machine to buy, but I was thinking along the lines of a Honda XL250 or similar. I've heard however, that the Chinese manufacturer Lifan offer good deals on their bikes and have a good dealer network across the whole region -does anyone have experience of their machines?
I realise this question has been asked before, but getting the latest info and hearing peoples experiences would be very helpful.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Hopefully we all will stay on this thread and we can exchange even more information in the near future.
And many thanks to Zainal, your information certainly makes things a lot easier for me in terms of planning. What I would also be interested in is prices, could you let us know of some examples of what is available in dealers at the moment? I would be interested in a secondhand machine initially -around 250cc or maybe smaller if it is a reputable model.

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hope you don't mind me latching onto your thread phil...
as we're looking for the same information
www.mudah.my is a site I was just looking at for secondhand bike in Malaysia. theres probably other sites too but I found quite a few cheap small 125cc on there.
when you thinking of going?
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hope you don't mind me latching onto your thread phil...
as we're looking for the same information
www.mudah.my is a site I was just looking at for secondhand bike in Malaysia. theres probably other sites too but I found quite a few cheap small 125cc on there.
when you thinking of going?
No, I don't mind at all, it's great stuff.
I'm heading off from the UK in late January, it's a shame I'll miss the Hubb meeting in Chiang Mai -I went to the last one and it was an excellent event, well worth it. Once I'm over in SEA I'm not sure if I will head off from KL to Sumatra and then Java, Bali etc or go north and do Thailand and Cambodia etc I'll be away 6 months at least -is the plan.
Cheers for the link Kevin.
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Yes mudah.com.my is the one you should look at for the kind of bike and price range. From there you will know what the market like. Once you decide what you want then only we can look into it or maybe get a better price somewhere. Bear in mind there are lots of second hand bike too at the shop. Cheers
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Hi Guys, I also am hoping to get a moto in KL just before Xmas with help from Zainal. I am presently riding around Laos on a Vietnamese registered tiddler which I will be handing back to the rental agency at the end of Nov. If you want to meet up in KL for a and info swap let me know. Ride safe.
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Hi, jumping into this thread also as it answers some questions of mine. Planning 2/3 months in January. Buying two bikes in Malaysia and travelling into Thailand and Cambodia. Please can anyone tell me if it is possible to sell the bikes in Thailand at the end rather than coming back to Malaysia?
Also what documents will we need to cross borders along with the bikes papers?
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On my way!

Greetings from SFO! I'm between flights and soon to board for Hong Kong. Will arrive in HCMC at 7 p.m. PST Saturday (10 a.m. Sunday local time).

Will have a report on the buying experience as soon as I'm an owner.

Until then, keep the rubber side down...
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Hi People, greetings from sweaty KL. Yesterday I went to KOK motors and bought a 2nd hand 150i Yamaha. The owner's son and a couple of his staff completed all the paperwork for me, transferring the ownership and then taxing and insuring my new mighty steed. This was completed in 1 day. KOK motors say that 1 day is normal for a new moto but a 2nd hand one is usually 2. So far I am well satisfied with the service I received and would recommend these guys.

Kevin, I now expect to be spending xmas probably in Penang or just over the Thai border, KL is just too oppressive and expensive to loiter in. I am aiming to make the HU meet in Chiang Mai and as my poor old body doesn't like long days any more I am doing it in little hops so if you are going to leave KL on the 26th you should catch me up abeam Bangkok. If you have any questions about moving around KL or accommodation, give me a PM. Ride safe.
p.s they also bought me lunch and drove me back to my hostel.
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Hi Mike,

Great to hear that everything went well with your bike. Tried to call you a couple of time, but u were not in. I went to your hostel, and you're already out. Hope to see you somewhere soon. Enjoy.
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no worries maja, if I don't catch up with you i'll see you at the meet at chiang mai.
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buy a bike in SE Asia for a tour

Hi Phil

Best way you should by in Thailand there you can register the bike under your name. For SE Asian registered vehicle to travel around SE Asia you don't need a Carnet de Passage. Other option that you can buy and register in Malaysia.

For vehicle registered in SE Asia is almost the same one you travel around the region.

Vietnam always required a crossing border permit to enter/exit the country

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Hi All
I'm planning to spend 6 months riding around SE Asia next year and would like to do it all on the same motorcycle. So, I was wondering which country is the best for buying a bike that I can register in my own name that I can take across national borders with minimum hassle?


Honda XR 250 is strongly recommended as they are type of enduro bike suited for long distance, mixed road condition...I own one for the last 3 years in Vietnam and he work perfect

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I've done a bit of touring (on various Honda step-thus) in North Thailand, Cambodia, South Java (from Bali) and Vietnam in recent years but this time I'd like to cover the lot on a larger more comfy machine (except 'Nam and Burma) in one long trip and ideally ending up in the same country where I bought my bike, so I can sell it again.
I'm not sure which sort of machine to buy, but I was thinking along the lines of a Honda XL250 or similar. I've heard however, that the Chinese manufacturer Lifan offer good deals on their bikes and have a good dealer network across the whole region -does anyone have experience of their machines?
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Ok guys, lots of good info here but I have a few questions.


Last time I took a bike into Malaysia I shipped from Australia but that was a long, long time ago (1977) and each time I have visited S.E. Asia since then I have rented - around 20-30 times over the years.


However, this time I am planning on buying a bike in Indonesia and riding it up through Sumatra before hopefully shipping from Medan/Belawan to Port Klang. Given that Indonesia is an ASEAN member does this mean that I can bring the bike into Malaysia without customs issues? (P.S. I know Vietnam is also an ASEAN member and I know the difficulties involved in taking your own transport in/out.)


Alternatively, can I buy in Malaysia and export to Indonesia without any special approvals?


At present, my plan is to arrive in Indonesia early November and buy a bike in Bali (probably a small auto scooter - contrary to other's experiences I find they have more than adequate power for hills/mountains - as they are way easier to ride in traffic, which will be the majority of my riding). So questions 3 is, is there anyone on the HUBB in Bali who can help with purchase / sell me a bike, and registration.


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I can't help too much, Garry, but this info may be relevant. I bought a 2007 Honda megapro in palembang, Sumatra, for $620, and just sold it five weeks later for $470, quick sale. It came with full registration and papers, but because I sold it so far from where I bought it it was devalued as the new owner must change the registration province.
I found it on olx.co.id (just like gumtree) and was helped by a local. If you want local help, try couchsurfing, most people are very happy to lend a hand.

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Hola, les cuento que he tenido bastante experiencia con los productos chinos.
A una moto de 200 cc la lleve por América durante 32000 kmts y aguanto bien.
En Australia compre una Kimco 125 cc y le metí 19884 kmts.
Ahora pienso en India comprar una Royal Enfield 500 o una Badjad pulsar 200 cc.
Los motores chinos están desarrollados hasta 200 cc de 200 cc para arriba están en etapas de consolidarse.
Lo esencial es cuidarla, no pasarlas de vueltas y llevarlas a una marcha tranquila de 80 a 90 kmts/h...el resto lo hace el piloto.
Pero estas motos, conosco las Lifan desde Peru y son buenas maquinitas.
No son para toda la vida, pero para un viaje inferior a 30000 kmts están bien.
Les dejo mi blog para que vean lo hecho.
The Dreams Trip / El viaje de los sueños
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Buenas rutas.
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