Hey Steve,
Don't write off those 4X4 guys so quickly....they almost always have spare gas,
cold  and a tow rope!
As far as the Push bikers go...well, I like the girl version a lot....best legs going, very trim and strong as hell. Wrestling anyone? I love to pull along side on a steep climb at 3 mph while a young thing "pumps" away madly, breathing hard and sweating like she really isn't faking....
Whoops....sorry..wrong forum!
Can't we all just get along?
Patrick
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Patrick passed Dec 2018. RIP Patrick!
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