A nice article however I do think that the same could be said about other vehicles. The article could easily cover TLC drivers with changing one little word .

IMHO any vehicle with strong owners communities will go out of their way to help each other, I experienced the same with my old ford car and seen similar tales on some of the landcruiser sites

When I'm travelling I wave and any fellow overlanders no matter how they are travelling. Always surprised when it doesn't get acknowledged. I'd also help out anyone in trouble as much as I could

Good read...

I too don't care what people drive. We are all travelling.

My personal choice is Toyota...i have driven many LR's from brand new Defenders to very old ones..to various Discovery's, Freelander's and new Range Rovers..

Not one of them did i like and a lot i hated....but wouldn't life be boring without differences!!!?? Personal taste has nothing to do with the person.

We too wave at all overlanders and i have to say most LR drivers do not wave back....this won't stop us waving at them...

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Personally I travel to see other cultures and meet local people there, meeting other travellers is secondary, though also nice.

A vehicle needs to be reliable, I am using it to get from A to B, I am not marrying it. Therefore I do not drive a LR.

First a traveller, then a (whatever) driver.

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It is more than "fairly well".
I have just re-read the article and it is even better for a second time around.

The OP, on second reading, has produced an ode to the LR; a veritable love letter.
After all this is Burn's night!

Maybe, but I don't see it: I can pick up loads of emotion and gushing enthusiasm for LRs from all sorts of directions but LC owners don't seem to do that, not even on Burn's night!
"Technical superiority" enthusiasm is about as far as it goes for LC owners.
Maybe it is just a UK thing?

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Its there in many countries especially the UK, US and Australia for the LC's. As I said I've also experienced brand camaraderie with my long term involvement in the ford scene. VW owners help each other out across the planet.

I am a LC owner but only a little prado. On my travels I've noticed I don't get a wave from 80 series drivers (mines not a proper LC), LR (its a Toyota), Bikers (its a 4x4) and organised groups from a particular European country. But I do get waves from the majority of people I see

PS Its a shame some needed to start the LC/LR debate

I accept your points, but there is still something perculiarly special, if not unique, about the UK affection for Land Rover Defenders and probably even more so for the earlier series.
Whereas, those other marques just have their enthusiasts, and their clubs, but when you see those landies scattered across some show or camping field it simply, well ----------- it works!

Anyone for a Mitsu Delica or a VW Syncro?

ps I also had a Prado for a short time: stupidly expensive insurance especially as it is a Colorado in all but badge: totally.
Mine was a "big" LWB but still with the small 3 litre lump: no one waved to me either.

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A mental picture of a defender is definitely preprogrammed into the British DNA, bit like tea. I pretty much guarantee if you start talking to a Brit about 4x4's they'll have a defender in mind

Trust me when you have a passion for a particular vehicle the site of a field full is a magical feeling. I have it with old fords and also with my MINI.

BTW members on a uk Landcruiser forum are currently helping out a stranded member in Chile by shipping parts out

Amen!!

I have to agree with Cleland's LAST post here (though Cleland hadn't done well earlier, but neither did others) - the thread IS titled "Why travel with a Land Rover" and is clearly about someone's love affair with Land Rovers - so getting into it with comments about how Toyota's are better is guaranteed to start yet another silly bun fight... "Handbags at ten paces" comes to mind.

And it's all very tiresome, so Toy owners stay on your threads, and Landies stay on yours please! Or you'll end up in the corner...

You'll notice this thread is now in the "Watering Hole" otherwise known as the Overlanders pub, the 4+ wheelers hangout for general conversation etc! .

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Nice move to the watering hole, so now there are 8 topics within the 4 wheels area of the HUBB.

Yes, the love affair is expressed in a good piece of writing in the OP, but my my how the thread did develop, especially over the last day.
Oh well, the lads and lassies will just have to deal with it.

Rather less poetical is the Glencoyne view of LRs, although he/they have an equal amount of passion about that infernal oval badge.

http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/liveguide.htm

The Land Rover Buyer's Guide - by Glencoyne 4x4 (Thetford)
But, those two articles about owning and living with LR beasts do contain a level of gentle humour and are further examples of good writing.

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I'm not picking a fight with anyone Cleland, that's just you looking for trouble yet again so wind it in. Given that you previously sent me a PM telling me, as a cage driver, to get off this motorcycle forum I'm struggling to understand why your here except to cause trouble.

Actually, I do like landies, thats why I have owned so many of them, I just wouldn't use one for travelling

What's your experience of Landrovers?

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Cleland read back through the posts, until your first post in this thread there was no problem and you now seem intent on making trolling posts against Moggy.

Maybe a mod could delete the deliberately antagonistic posts for everyones sake?

Apologies for replying. I'm only here in my (unpaid) role as a mod to have a look around and check if yet another 4x4 bunfight is brewing. A real shame. In the bike section, despite 95% of the HUBB traffic being bike specific (a statistic I just made up... ), there's much less argey-bargey than that made by the (current) 5%. The users there tend to be well behaved and the only real mod work is to disappear spammers.

There's a feature in the forum software (I believe you go into User Options > Add to Ignore list) for people to be able to hide stuff from specific other users).

If people in the 4x4 section behaved themselves, rather than having sh!te handbags rattling sessions (that make the individual(s) just look ridiculous) every 2 minutes, maybe the 5% could grow to make the hubb the first choice for people interested in 4x4 travel, like it is for biker travellers.

I know this thread is officially meant to be only on the topic of LRs, but as it's the watering hole and no useful content is required, I'll carry on anyway :

5 or 6 years ago I borrowed a mate's TLC (1978 BJ75 Troopcarrier 3.4L 4 cylinder diesel with over 350kkm on the clock) for a 6 week 12kkm drive around southern Africa. The car felt a lot like a cage. A very slow cage. One where I was hemmed in and restricted. Driving it bored me to tears (and I had the interesting job = holding the steering wheel). My ex wife and son were close to despair (that could of course have been my company... ) with nothing to do.

The car was described as "Too stupid to break down": (It didn't).

By contrast, on a bike, you're in the film... (from Zen and the Art of... ?). Unless I'm physically unable to ride a bike, I won't ever use any 4x4 for travelling again.

In summary: If you think I talk bo!!ocks, put me on your ignore list. Sadly I can't do the same to others as I have to trawl the garbage too. That is until I can't be bothered any more and just remove the litterbug.

Just to clarify, Mr Warden (can I call you "The"? ), this post isn't aimed at you.

PS. A mod is able to read the utterance that people have deleted. Wouldn't the world be a nicer place if people thought carefully about what they wrote, rather than developing keyboard-warrior-ness, prior to realising they're not big after all?

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