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Old 22 Mar 2018
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Shipping US Registered Bike to Hamburg. Carnet Requested.

I asked In Time Forwarding & Courier eK for a quote to ship my bike from Valparaiso, Chile to Hamburg, Germany. The broker asked me for a Carnet de Passage, saying it would simplify the import process. From the HUBB paperwork and shipping forums, I thought a CDP would not be required to bring my bike into Europe for 6-12 months. Did I get that wrong, or is the broker just trying to simplify matters by asking for the financial guarantee? I’d hate to purchase a CDP if not needed. Thanks for any advice you can provide!
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It has been up here in the past that shipping a non-EU bike into Hamburg is a PITA, they require thing like a carnet or bond that is not required anywhere else in Europe. I cannot remember what if any solution there is apart from shipping elsewhere.
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It is the same as everywhere in the world and many things specially at customs are up to the officer at the other side of the desk.
We recomend the Carnet as this avoid waiting time, problems and finally headache for a small amount payable for it
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a small amount payable for it
A carnet can cost thousands of Dollars or Euros as well a time to get, they are not required to temporarily import vehicles into Europe and this is very bad advice.

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It is the same as everywhere in the world
It is not the same everywhere in the world, you can travel the whole of North and South America, Central Asia, Europe and parts of Africa without one.
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A carnet can cost thousands of Dollars or Euros as well a time to get, they are not required to temporarily import vehicles into Europe and this is very bad advice.



It is not the same everywhere in the world, you can travel the whole of North and South America, Central Asia, Europe and parts of Africa without one.


in Germany the Carnet costs abt EUR 200,00, is it that much more in US??? You have to make a deposit but this returns back


it is always the same in the world if the customs officer will give you a hard time or if you will go through easily
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In 2014 I flew my South African registered bike to Frankfurt from Vancouver,
at the German customs in Frankfurt i was asked for a Carne, just told them that i did not need one according to German regs under temp import for up to one year.
There reply was Oh OK, have a nice trip...

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I asked In Time Forwarding & Courier eK for a quote to ship my bike from Valparaiso, Chile to Hamburg, Germany. The broker asked me for a Carnet de Passage, saying it would simplify the import process. From the HUBB paperwork and shipping forums, I thought a CDP would not be required to bring my bike into Europe for 6-12 months. Did I get that wrong, or is the broker just trying to simplify matters by asking for the financial guarantee? I’d hate to purchase a CDP if not needed. Thanks for any advice you can provide!
We have shipped (air freight) lots of not Germans or even Europeans bikes to Germany and other Europeans countries from Buenos Aires and a Carnet never was necessary, for shipment or collection. Don’t get a Carnet if you don’t need it!!!

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Hi Strings,
unfortunately the homepage of the German customs doesn't give any exact information regarding the Carnet de Passage. Only, that for a temporary import you may use your vehicle tax- and import-duty-free for 6 months. See here: Customs online - Temporary importation of a vehicle

I have just phoned the customs office in Munich and additionally the main German customs office in Dresden. Both offices have confirmed that a CDP is not required for the temporary import of a private vehicle into any countries of the EU. Unfortunately there is no information to be found on their web site.

The lady in Dresden referred to the German Automobile Association ADAC, who has a web site displaying the countries which do or don't require a CDP. The link is here: https://www.adac.de/reise_freizeit/r...ssages_en.aspx

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well it is not a must have, but it might simplify the procedure in Germany specially if you return from another Point from EU. Customs has the Option to decide that they want a deposit of 30% of the value of the bike and the customs might change the given value up
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well it is not a must have, but it might simplify the procedure in Germany specially if you return from another Point from EU. Customs has the Option to decide that they want a deposit of 30% of the value of the bike and the customs might change the given value up
I don't believe that customs has the option to demand a deposit. Please read this: http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-indivi...icle_node.html

Of course a CDP makes life easier, but since it is definitely not required for EU countries the expenses plus the large deposit are just annoying.
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I don't believe that customs has the option to demand a deposit. Please read this: Customs online - Temporary importation of a vehicle

Next time the customs requests a deposit I will invite you to discuss with them
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Shipping US (NYC) to Hamburg, Germany

Hi y'all,
I'm new to the site and forum. I've recently moved to Hamburg, Germany, and want to move my bike from Brooklyn so I can start touring around Europe with it this summer.
I've never shipped a bike before, and not quite sure where to start. What shipping companies could anyone recommend that offer services in filing the import and duties paperwork? If the company also offers on site TUV inspection that would be great, but not necessary.
And any insight on how I can calculate the import taxes and duties?

Really appreciate the help here.
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TLDR: It is much cheaper and easier to sell your US bike and buy one like it in Germany.

The original topic starter was talking about temporarily bringing in his bike while he was on a tourist visa (waiver). If you are a permanent resident, bringing in your bike will involve paying German customs fees plus whatever it costs to certify that it is compliant with EU regs (pray that an equivalent model was on sale in Europe, otherwise it is an individual type certificate). German technical inspection regulations are some of the strictest in Europe.
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