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Is it time to start looking at another port now Brazil is not going to be the cheap way into SA. I've never shipped from Dakar to SA but reading enough I have even known of this for some time but then again to me money is an object that keeps me traveling and I much prefer spending no more than necessary for shipping even if it makes me ship from a country a couple 1000km away.

I'm looking forward to the next quote, I only expect it to get worse...
The problem is that I have no alternative.
1) I do not want to send from Argentina or Uruguay, because for my Round The World does not make sense to stop in Argentina and not arriving in Brazil, before making "the leap" for Africa.
2) I have found NO other carrier in Brazil: NONE, nor in HU nor all over the internet. If there are, I would not have found them.
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Costs at the receiving end is also something to keep in mind. Generally when sending by air, they do not seem to bring as big surprises as they often do with seafreight. But anyway, its good to be aware, exactly what the quotes include. (wow, 4000€ is mighty expensive!)
Yes it is expensive (as the flight from Sydney to Santiago), but keep in mind that my bike weighs 450 kg and has a volume of length 261.5 cm, width 95.5 cm, height (after removing a piece of the windscreen) 140 cm. It is not possible disassemble any further (eg remove the bags or the rear trunk) my bike.
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Maybe take the front wheel off? Dunno about the Wing, but usually that helps with the length of the package a bit. Resting such a heavy bike on its front dampers during transit could be something to worry about, though.
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Maybe take the front wheel off? Dunno about the Wing, but usually that helps with the length of the package a bit. Resting such a heavy bike on its front dampers during transit could be something to worry about, though.
No, for two reasons.
1) Remove the wheel from the Gold Wing is complicated.
2) The savings would be modest, because the Gold wing is very "massive".
Thanks for the suggestion, but the Gold Wing is a particular bike: it gives so much, but want much.
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Hello Donato.
I know "you can not precisely predict how long it will takes you to crate and clear the bike through Both the customs" and I also know that "Dakar's harbor properly itsn't a carnival."
But I also know that many said it was not possible to go through certain streets with a Gold Wing as my o ... a Harley like yours.
The challenge is not only to go to a place, not just go with a motorcycle, but also to go in a certain time. And I like it. I love traveling "fast".
In any case, I travel fast, not "in a hurry". There is a subtle difference.
Travelers "in a hurry", must necessarily go home within a day.
I do not, I do not "I", I "want" to go back to a certain day. It 's different.
If a month late, it does not happen anything serious, from the point of view of work, I lose a month's pay, not the work, from the point of view of the family, my wife will be sorry, but do not let me down.
I work, I can ask four months and then only use 2, when I come, the day I resubmit my expectation at work / vacation stops automatically and everything returns to normal.
I start planning 2/3 months and my wife knows that I plan to return in this period, but if, by my calculation errors (unlikely: I have never been wrong these accounts in my travels) or events that are my own will, it will take a month more, patience is not the end of the world is nothing irreparable.
Each of us travel in a different way.
I know your point of wiew about "How i like to ride" but you didn't get the meaning of my post. Itsn't to schedule a timing stage from a to b, wich it is only partly predictable getting through, as example, Pakistan and, mainly India, but to know in advance how long it will takes you to manage four different shippings, luckily for you by air, along a "fast", as you said, RTW.
i say "in a Hurry" because that's what i perceive when i read about trips like that.
by the way about shipping from SA to Senegal: may could you heading, for a while, to brazil first, then rode down to BA to manage the fly to Africa.
And, believe me, i've heard different stories, from people wich use to deal with brazilian customs for professional purposes, as i'd avoid to ship anything, from to, Brazil, no matters if by sea or air.
But, at the end, this is your trip, your "challenge", your will to accomplish it at your own way. i didn't knew you can get more time, in case of need, without getting in trouble with the job.
so, once you'll face it, then you'll know...
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I know your point of wiew about "How i like to ride" but you didn't get the meaning of my post. Itsn't to schedule a timing stage from a to b, wich it is only partly predictable getting through, as example, Pakistan and, mainly India, but to know in advance how long it will takes you to manage four different shippings, luckily for you by air, along a "fast", as you said, RTW.
i say "in a Hurry" because that's what i perceive when i read about trips like that.
by the way about shipping from SA to Senegal: may could you heading, for a while, to brazil first, then rode down to BA to manage the fly to Africa.
And, believe me, i've heard different stories, from people wich use to deal with brazilian customs for professional purposes, as i'd avoid to ship anything, from to, Brazil, no matters if by sea or air.
But, at the end, this is your trip, your "challenge", your will to accomplish it at your own way. i didn't knew you can get more time, in case of need, without getting in trouble with the job.
so, once you'll face it, then you'll know...
For the 4 flights I planned 3 days (the first two, the "short") and 4 days (the last 2, the "long" ones, of Ocean Pacific and Atlantic).
The forwarder Brazilian (he, too, every time I say it is very difficult to send something from Brazil) warned me that it will take 4 to 7 days. If it will take 4 days well, good, otherwise... patience.
My argument is very simple: I can take up to a year from my job, but if I come back after only 2 months, I continue to work without problems and I have not lost nothing.
I can afford to stay a year without working, but I will not do: I will make the trip in 2 months (max 80 days): if I can do well, it will take more time ... patience, but it is not a serious problem.
But I'll make it ... I think
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For the 4 flights I planned 3 days (the first two, the "short") and 4 days (the last 2, the "long" ones, of Ocean Pacific and Atlantic).
The forwarder Brazilian (he, too, every time I say it is very difficult to send something from Brazil) warned me that it will take 4 to 7 days. If it will take 4 days well, good, otherwise... patience.
My argument is very simple: I can take up to a year from my job, but if I come back after only 2 months, I continue to work without problems and I have not lost nothing.
I can afford to stay a year without working, but I will not do: I will make the trip in 2 months (max 80 days): if I can do well, it will take more time ... patience, but it is not a serious problem.
But I'll make it ... I think
so, it seems you can get the circle squared...
But, i could never totally agree with someone who's approaching to a RTW trip, it doesn't matter in wich "way", while i'm stuck at home...
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so, it seems you can get the circle squared...
But, i could never totally agree with someone who's approaching to a RTW trip, it doesn't matter in wich "way", while i'm stuck at home...
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Donato, you are a friend. And, just because you're a friend, I'll think particularly to you during my Round The World, when things go well and ... when they go bad.
The return of'll give my book I write, but only if you, in the meantime, you will have completed your on your wonderful trip to Asia.
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Today I got the last quote that I was missing: the crate to be built in Brazil for the flight to Dakar (even the expensive quote the shipping of Rio de Janeiro, in fact, did not include the crate and I have also insisted that price):
$ 1,400!
Even in Australia it costs less! ($ 780).
With this, the total cost of the flight from Brazil rises to $ 6,500 (over-the-fly for me as a person).
Let's look at the bright side: the bad news "should" be finished.
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the bad news "should" be finished.
Nope. But I think you enjoy this part.
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Nope. But I think you enjoy this part.
"Nope"? What does this mean?
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Nope means no. In other words, the bad news is not finished. There will be more. This is a guarantee.

I don't know what form it will take: probably some more fees on one end or the other. Almost certainly some scheduling difficulties. Likely some requirements they haven't told you about.

You're determined, and don't seem to mind the expense and trouble; in fact, you seem to enjoy it. Things will work out, but you'll spend twice as long making arrangements, pay three times as much as necessary, and take great pride in overcoming all the obstacles. Many of us would rather avoid the obstacles and spend our time and money riding instead. Free choice is a wonderful thing.

Safe journeys!

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Nope means no. In other words, the bad news is not finished. There will be more. This is a guarantee.

I don't know what form it will take: probably some more fees on one end or the other. Almost certainly some scheduling difficulties. Likely some requirements they haven't told you about.

You're determined, and don't seem to mind the expense and trouble; in fact, you seem to enjoy it. Things will work out, but you'll spend twice as long making arrangements, pay three times as much as necessary, and take great pride in overcoming all the obstacles. Many of us would rather avoid the obstacles and spend our time and money riding instead. Free choice is a wonderful thing.

Safe journeys!

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I agree with you: the bad news is not over.
But I think I have overcome the biggest obstacle: finding a way to fly with my bike at a cost "reasonable." Reasonable, of course, is a discourse relative depends on the circumstances, how long someone takes to anything and ... by people.
As for the "Many of us would rather avoid the obstacles and spend our time and money riding instead", I do not just "riding" riding: I want where I want. Thus will lead to Brazil and then from Dakar to my house.
Although this will result in more spending, more obstacles and complications.
Do not give up my trip just for these difficulties.
And to think that "normal" people, sometimes giving the crazy bikers because WE prefer to drive a vehicle open and unstable, resulting dangers and difficulties, instead of a comfortable and safe box with 4 wheels!
But, you know, "Free choice is a wonderful thing."
This is my way of being motorcyclist.
PS: If I wanted to just "riding" on beautiful streets, do not even go out of my Italy, which has everything a biker could be enough.
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PS: If I wanted to just "riding" on beautiful streets, do not even go out of my Italy, which has everything a biker could be enough.
You must have not "ridden" Colombia yet
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You must have not "ridden" Colombia yet
I will pass from Colombia in a few years (2015, 2016?), during my North-South America.
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