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Does the vehicle have to get the carnet from the country it's registered in ?
or due to the free trade agreement within the EEC can we shop around within those member states ??
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Does the vehicle have to get the carnet from the country it's registered in ?
or due to the free trade agreement within the EEC can we shop around within those member states ??
Going "by the book", you probably should get it from your country of residence. But 3,5 years ago I tried to apply the Carnet for Asia from the ADAC (I have a Finnish passport, and the bike´s registered in Finland). The answer was they forwarded me back to the Finnish AA, with the only exception being, if I needed a Carnet for Egypt. Which I didn´t.

The ADAC seemed cheaper than our AA at that time (handling fees were about the same, but the bond in Finland was 5000 euros, whereas with ADAC it could´ve been around 3000, if I remember the figures correctly - and I estimated bike value at 9000, I think, and 5000 was actually the minimum bond amount in Finland).

Maybe I gave up on ADAC too easy back then. f I needed that precious paper again, this time I´d probably try them a bit more persistently. I was left under the impression, that it´s not 100% impossible to get it from another country.
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Just had a browse over the ADAC web site and it does appear possible to use them

Carnet de Passages Englisch

http://www.adac.de/_mm/pdf/Carnet%20...isch_18337.pdf

It gives a selection of charges implying that you do not have to have a German registered vehicle.
On the last page of the pdf applocation form it asks for " certificate of location stamped by your customs authority"


I am going to give it a try in the new year a need a carnet for Japan and Iran . Any problems i shall let you know
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As far as I'm aware, you don't need a carnet for Kenya, you just pay a Temporary Impory Permit charge on the border, 25 dollars if I remember right, and then there is a road tax to pay, about the same again for a month.
If you have a carnet, you dont pay the T.I.P
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As far as I'm aware, you don't need a carnet for Kenya, you just pay a Temporary Impory Permit charge on the border, 25 dollars if I remember right, and then there is a road tax to pay, about the same again for a month.
If you have a carnet, you dont pay the T.I.P
How long ago was this as, unfortunately - this says otherwise:
KRA - Customs Services Department - Frequently Asked Questions

"For foreigners, a carnet de passage has to be obtained. This document is issued by the Automobile Association (AA) office in any country."

What the reality is, is anybodys guess. Anyone with recent personal experience ???
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Just had a browse over the ADAC web site and it does appear possible to use them

Carnet de Passages Englisch

http://www.adac.de/_mm/pdf/Carnet%20de%20Passages_Antrag(komplett)_englisch_1 8337.pdf

It gives a selection of charges implying that you do not have to have a German registered vehicle.
On the last page of the pdf applocation form it asks for " certificate of location stamped by your customs authority"


I am going to give it a try in the new year a need a carnet for Japan and Iran . Any problems i shall let you know
Keep us posted. From what I have read, the AIT in Switzerland (who ultimately run the scheme) have directed that persons living in countries that have a participating Automobile Association, must use their own one. The site does appear to accept applications from other countries but unfortunately we may be stuck with our extortionate RAC.

Unfortunately their web site is 8 years out date and sucks - big time.

If you have any luck, I will be following in your footsteps.

Good Luck and Happy New Year

EDIT: Reading the attached instructions, it is apparent that you can only use a bank garuantee from a German bank. Not that it makes much difference to pay in cash (as you would need to do if you do not have a German acount), as you cannot do anything with the money anyway.
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