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Hello all,

I'm planning a long distance trip by motorcycle beginning next year and I am writing to see if someone can help me with the Carnet de Passages en Douane.

I'm Portuguese and I spent the last few weeks trying to get my National Automobile Club allow me to do the carnet through ADAC or RAC. As usual they're asking a ridiculous amount of money and it would be a much better deal doing it through the German or British club. My problem is that both require that the Portuguese club has to issue written correspondence or an e-mail that states they have no objections giving them permission to issue the carnet. The reason for that is the FIA-rules and UN-conventions on carnet-issuing that state that the competence of carnet-issuing just lies in the hands of the National Automobile Club (in case there is one) of the country the vehicle is registered in. So other automobile clubs are not allowed to issue carnets for those vehicles without permission of the homeland automobile club, even if you're a EU resident

However someone in ADAC told me that they have issued carnets for other countries, too, and it has never been a big trouble. But the Portuguese club is refusing to do this, based on the following FIA rules.

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You can inform your client that since in Portugal the ACP is the issuing association you are the one entitled to issue CPDs for Portuguese vehicles and that if you give your authorization to the ADAC (for some exceptional reason why you can´t issue the CPD) the ADAC would be issuing a CPD on your behalf and therefore the same level of guarantees should be requested by that Club.

The Art. 10 of the AIT/FIA Guarantee Agreement clearly says that: “An Association will issue AIT/FIA documents only in respect of vehicles registered in the country of the issuing Association. If, exceptionally the above condition is not met, the issuing Association which receives the request for a carnet must consult the Association in the other country concerned as necessary in order to ensure that adequate guarantees are obtained.
Maybe someone here that has been through the same situation can help me with how they managed to go trough this inconvenience, of having to get the permission from their local club, or some legal ground to use as an exceptional reason. I already called FIA and that didn't help.

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