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Carnet for non carnet countries?
So I am planning a trip to the middle east through:

EU->Turkey->Iran->Iraq->Kuwait->KSA->Bahrain->KSA->Quatar->KSE-> UAE->OMAN -> KSA -> Jordan - > Israel -> EU

From my understanding the only country that requires a Carne on that list is Iran. So I need it to check in and check out from Iran. But what do I do with the rest of the countries?

Do I still use the Carne at these borders or do I just import my bike the normal way? Any upside in doing one over the other?
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So I am planning a trip to the middle east through:

EU->Turkey->Iran->Iraq->Kuwait->KSA->Bahrain->KSA->Quatar->KSE-> UAE->OMAN -> KSA -> Jordan - > Israel -> EU

From my understanding the only country that requires a Carne on that list is Iran. So I need it to check in and check out from Iran. But what do I do with the rest of the countries?

Do I still use the Carne at these borders or do I just import my bike the normal way? Any upside in doing one over the other?
A carnet is not mandatory for Iran, but saves a lot of hassle arranging temporary import at the land border.

In other countries they will issue you some kind of temporary import paper (e.g. Iraq), or just log you in the customs database (e.g. Turkey).

Some people have got their carnet stamped entering Jordan from Saudi Arabia, others have been refused and made to buy a temporary import permit.

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A carnet is not mandatory for Iran, but saves a lot of hassle arranging temporary import at the land border.

In other countries they will issue you some kind of temporary import paper (e.g. Iraq), or just log you in the customs database (e.g. Turkey).

Some people have got their carnet stamped entering Jordan from Saudi Arabia, others have been refused and made to buy a temporary import permit.

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Thanks.

So basically I will save money if I try to use the carne instead of the TIP? So I should try to use it every time? Do you know about the other countries is there a TIP fee for the gulf countries or Israel?
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So basically I will save money if I try to use the carne instead of the TIP? So I should try to use it every time? Do you know about the other countries is there a TIP fee for the gulf countries or Israel?
Usually, in Asia, you either need the carnet to get the vehicle into the country, or the authorities will not use it at all. So I doubt you will be able to use the carnet to get around a temporary import permit except in Iran and possibly Jordan.

I have no experience with the Gulf countries or Israel, but I know that none of them require the carnet.

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I've used CdP for Europe, South America, Africa, and Australia. Many countries don't need it, however it provides protection in the unfortunate (and obviously unwanted) situation where you are unable to take the bike or vehicle out of the country (theft, total loss). It also means that you're not paying a fee for a TIP, where there is one. We always start asking to use the CdP; when the customs people insist on a TIP we obviously do what they want.
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I've used CdP for Europe, South America, Africa, and Australia.
Which European country stamped your carnet?

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Many countries don't need it, however it provides protection in the unfortunate (and obviously unwanted) situation where you are unable to take the bike or vehicle out of the country (theft, total loss).
Quite the opposite. It means that in the event of not re-exporting your vehicle, you are liable to pay any customs fees. The carnet issuer will not be in any way liable to cover those fees for you. If you enter on a TIP, you will be liable for the same, but there is no liability with a carnet issuer.
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