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Carnet de Passage for vehicle younger than 5 years old

Hello everybody,
I've been searching the site but couldnt find a definitive answer. I've heard that a Carnet de Passage isn't necessary for vehicles younger than 5 years. Is this true?

I'm asking this question to the ADAC as well so I'll post an update if I know but if you guys have any information about this it would be appreciated as well
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I've followed all the advice about carnets on the forums -never heard that before. It does not really make sense as the whole point is so that they collect tax on imports.
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There might be exceptions but if there are I have never heard of them so no it is not true.
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Okay thanks for the replies. I'll still check with the ADAC and see if I can get this confirmed.

Btw I thought the reasoning behind this was that the CDP was to stop old vehicles flooding the country. That would be why it's not mandatory for a vehicle youngerr then 5 years.
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Ehm....no, that's not what it's for. Where are you heading to by the way ?

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Btw I thought the reasoning behind this was that the CDP was to stop old vehicles flooding the country. That would be why it's not mandatory for a vehicle youngerr then 5 years.
Some countries have rules like that for imports. I have not heard of carnets being used for that purpose.
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Got respons from the ADAC. They confirm your replies that you still need the CDP even when the vehicle is younger then 5 years. Maybe it would be possible to get the bike across the borders withouth the CDP but I reckon you need some 'lubricant' to do that
so were not taking any chances and are getting the CDP.

IRT Donmanolo, we're heading to Ghana through Marocco, Mauritania, Senegal , Guinnee and Ivorycoast (if they reopen the border like they say).

A quick other question, what are peoples experiences with delivery time on the CDP from the ADAC? 4-5 weeks is this correct? Any cases where it took (much) longer? Thanks!
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A quick other question, what are peoples experiences with delivery time on the CDP from the ADAC? 4-5 weeks is this correct? Any cases where it took (much) longer? Thanks!
To where?
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Hi guys,

I think you might be referring to the 5 year rule in Senegal (which changed to 8 years a few years back).

Basically, if your vehicle is less than 8 years old you can take it through Senegal without a CDP. If older than 8 years, they stipulate you need a CDP.

If you don't have a CDP, then you will have a very hard time and an emptier wallet after negotiating a pass avant with the crooked douane.

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Thanks Dave, I think that might be the case. We must've misinterpreted it.

@markmanley,
We live in the Netherlands. And by delivery time I didn't mean the actual delivery time but more the 'processing' time by the ADAC
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ADAC told us it depends on the season. In the summer waiting times increase but right now it's approx. 2-3 weeks.
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ADAC told us it depends on the season. In the summer waiting times increase but right now it's approx. 2-3 weeks.
I sent my application via DHL from Bamako Mali and received my CDP in Bamako all in 5 days!!!
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