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Old 16 Oct 2015
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I see that the petition is being re-promoted on Facebook. Is there any update in relation to the changes in EU rules? Or is early 2016 the best we can hope for?

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Not sure who's re promoting the petition.

But here is the latest update.

https://www.change.org/p/european-co...ter/u/13796308

The FIA have kept to their word, completed their legal review of the global agreement and are moving forward with the changes promised.

Although the new agreement may take some time to finalise, I'm expecting that we should start seeing positive changes between now and then. But this is dependent on the associations being educated by the FIA as to the changes that are happening, and the legality of the interpretation and use of the clause in dispute / being enforced by the RAC.

There is also other news which will affect the state of play, but until this becomes official it would be inappropriate to discuss it publicly.

We are also pushing forward to become a carnet issuer, once we have approval form either the UK or Irish governments to issue CDP carnets we get move forward with our plans.

We are currently on the road, with limited internet, we will update the main petition when there is significant news, and our FB Group with smaller informal updates etc...

https://www.change.org/p/european-co...ter/u/13796308


The latest update update on North American Carnets is posted here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Over...7548470129773/

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I am not sure how it is with other european countries, but (for example) Finnish people can now get carnet straight from ADAC in Germany.

Previously they got carnet from Sweden, but this has now changed. So it might be good time to check with ADAC if they are doing this with other countries too!
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Ok I'm back after a few years away and back on the RAC carnet issue

What's the latest, don't really want to scroll through all the previous posts

Also found this
http://www.atacarnet.com/UK-ATA-Carnets
Anyone have any more info on it?

Just put the petition link up all over Facebook so will hopefully get a few people sighting the petition over the next few days

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I've just started a new thread, but wanted to add this as a note here.

From December 31 2015, the RAC will no longer be issueing Carnets.
At this time, you will need to contact an EU Club for this service.

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RAC to stop issuing Carnets

The RAC website states that they are stopping issuing Carnets altogether. Does anyone know who will be the issuing body for the UK? I'm off through Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal, and Gambia. I know I don't need one for Morocco but there seems to be some doubt about Mauritania and Senegal. They are on the list of countries where they are required but recent accounts from travellers suggest otherwise. Any information gratefully received.?
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The RAC website states that they are stopping issuing Carnets altogether. Does anyone know who will be the issuing body for the UK? I'm off through Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal, and Gambia. I know I don't need one for Morocco but there seems to be some doubt about Mauritania and Senegal. They are on the list of countries where they are required but recent accounts from travellers suggest otherwise. Any information gratefully received.?
If you search the thread (I know, it's 12 pages) then ADAC (the German AA) have been willing to issue Carnets to UK travellers for some time (and people on this thread have been positive about ADAC), up until now the RAC have stood in the way of this. The latest statement from the RAC now says that UK travellers are free to use other agencies Carnet de Passage | Application Form | RAC Driving Information | RAC. So, I guess, ADAC is the best place to go right now.

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The RAC website states that they are stopping issuing Carnets altogether. Does anyone know who will be the issuing body for the UK? I'm off through Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal, and Gambia. I know I don't need one for Morocco but there seems to be some doubt about Mauritania and Senegal. They are on the list of countries where they are required but recent accounts from travellers suggest otherwise. Any information gratefully received.?
There should be a plan to change the whole system, how carnets are issued. I don´t know the exact details, and I´m not sure if there is already more recent information about this, but at least check post #10 on this thread:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...001#post505745
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Not sure who's re promoting the petition.

But here is the latest update.

https://www.change.org/p/european-co...ter/u/13796308

The FIA have kept to their word, completed their legal review of the global agreement and are moving forward with the changes promised.

Although the new agreement may take some time to finalise, I'm expecting that we should start seeing positive changes between now and then. But this is dependent on the associations being educated by the FIA as to the changes that are happening, and the legality of the interpretation and use of the clause in dispute / being enforced by the RAC.

There is also other news which will affect the state of play, but until this becomes official it would be inappropriate to discuss it publicly.

We are also pushing forward to become a carnet issuer, once we have approval form either the UK or Irish governments to issue CDP carnets we get move forward with our plans.

We are currently on the road, with limited internet, we will update the main petition when there is significant news, and our FB Group with smaller informal updates etc...

https://www.change.org/p/european-co...ter/u/13796308


The latest update update on North American Carnets is posted here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Over...7548470129773/
Hello there - Potential North American in need of a CPD Carnet and I saw your post with the link to an update on Facebook. I am not a registered FB user so I could not access this information.

Can anyone copy and paste the info? I'm hoping the the North American agency Boomerang is now issuing on this side of the pond. I wrote them have not heard back yet.
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The last time i spoke to the FIA re North America was about 4 weeks ago at the time there were still in the process of obtaining approval to issue CDP carnets.

The project manager from the FIA is on holiday until Monday, and i'm expecting an update when she returns...

You can also view our updates in our forum here, with out being a member of facebook Carnet / Temporary Import | Overland Sphere - Overland Travel Forum & Information
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The last time i spoke to the FIA re North America was about 4 weeks ago at the time there were still in the process of obtaining approval to issue CDP carnets.

The project manager from the FIA is on holiday until Monday, and i'm expecting an update when she returns...

You can also view our updates in our forum here, with out being a member of facebook Carnet / Temporary Import | Overland Sphere - Overland Travel Forum & Information

Thanks for the link and the update!

Sounds like you have a good channel for the latest information/progress from the FIA side..

FYI - I actually spoke with a representative at Boomerang Carnet this morning (ATA Carnet | Boomerang Carnets), and got a very similar response. She estimated that they *should* have FIA approval by end of year - and would then start offering (advertising) CPD Carnet services to North American citizens in January 2016. Currently they offer pretty quick turnaround on ATA Carnet's (like 48 hours) but she wasn't sure that would be the case with CPD Carnet's - as there may be more/different approvals necessary through FIA for each applicant?

Anyway - her estimate was just that - an estimate. No guarantees. She did suggest going to their website and signing on for their newsletter/updates, as when they do get approved, they would be sending the news out via their email lists.

I'm crossing my fingers as I may have the need for one in February 2016
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Carnet de passage

I am writing in response to the posts about the RAC and Carnet de passsage. I have been planing a trip to Africa and will need a carnet, which I have organised through ADAC in Germany. It works out considerably cheaper than with the RAC. I have previously used the RAC but it is getting expensive.
I called ADAC and they told me it is no problem for them to issue the carnet but they need a letter of non objection from RAC. I called the RAC and they agreed to issue the letter of non objection which was emailed to me the very next day and a papaer copy arrived in the post a few days later.
I downloaded the application forms from the ADAC website, filled them in, emailed the forms and copies of v5, passport, and letter of non objection so they could be checked. I received an email saying everything was in order and they started the process. I then had to send original application forms via the postal service to them ( so they have a signed copy).
I have paid the deposit and the fees and when the carnet is returned and discharged I will get back the deposit. (Dont forget it is vital the carnet is completed correctly at every border crossing, so there is no delay when returning it.)
My carnet is now on its way the whole process was fairly easy and straightforward and has only taken a couple of weeks to complete and I get the cash deposit back and not just 50% as with the insurance backed option from RAC, so in the long run save a lot of money over the RAC deal:
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Carnet De Passage

Hi all, many thanks for this info. I am flying from New Zealand to the UK mid 2016 to start an overland trip back to New Zealand via Africa, so a carnet is required for me. The big question for me from what I have read is will I as a non EU resident be able to get a carnet for a UK registered vehicle from Germany ADAC?? I can get an address in the UK as I have family here but I do not hold a UK passport.
Is anyone able to help with this??
many thanks
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Thanks for the link and the update!

Sounds like you have a good channel for the latest information/progress from the FIA side..

FYI - I actually spoke with a representative at Boomerang Carnet this morning (ATA Carnet | Boomerang Carnets), and got a very similar response. She estimated that they *should* have FIA approval by end of year - and would then start offering (advertising) CPD Carnet services to North American citizens in January 2016. Currently they offer pretty quick turnaround on ATA Carnet's (like 48 hours) but she wasn't sure that would be the case with CPD Carnet's - as there may be more/different approvals necessary through FIA for each applicant?

Anyway - her estimate was just that - an estimate. No guarantees. She did suggest going to their website and signing on for their newsletter/updates, as when they do get approved, they would be sending the news out via their email lists.

I'm crossing my fingers as I may have the need for one in February 2016
Hot off the press from Suzanne Danis at the CAA. Good news for North American travelers...

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mtncrawler and I posted at about the same time:

See the new Carnet issuing authority announcement here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-issuing-84779
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