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Old 18 Sep 2007
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Hey Mick I will be riding to the MotoGP in October. Maybe we can catch up when I'm on the way back as I will be riding down with a heap of other bikes but will be on my own on the way back. Will PM you soon.
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awesome!

Congrats Jimmy!
& guys, this thread is really 'happenin'!
well, if you made it through China, (without ha$$le) then theres a new horizons for us (south asianer's) to do overland travel 100%!!
by the way:

its the rainy seasons in Malaysia now, mostly on the west coast.
Northern Malaysia/ Southern Thailand was hit pretty bad yesterday!
approx 400 people had to be evacuated. But the Hiways to Thailand are not flooded yet. Ride in early mornings, it normally rains in the aftrenoon!

p.s. could still remember when I had to wait for 3hours for the storm to stop, while I was on my way to Penang.
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Malaysia (Penang) to Sumatra

Hi there Osama .....

Didn't look to see if you've been on the thread earlier, but if not then welcome matey. I see that you're up around Thailand/ top bit of Malaysia, but you've got KL listed on your profile. Is this your home town? The reasona I asked, is that I'm hoping to go through this part of the world next year ... but will try and miss most of the rainy stuff if I can.

There seems to be feedback that the Indonesian authorities are getting tougher on bikers going into Sumatra on banana boats and the suchlike. I also recently read someone's blog, who intended going from Malaysia to Oz through Indonesia (then onto the USA). It seems they gave up waiting for the Penang ferry across to Sumatra after a couple of weeks (with the shipping agent telling them tomorrow? day after? etc. Are they that unreliable then?

Be interested in any info' you've got on this. ...... Len
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Hi Jimmy, I too am thinking of going there

Hi Jimmy, I live between UK and Nongkhai Thailand and have been thinking of doing same thing but route I would like to go is southern Europe, Turkey and down to Saudi then get ferry to India and then Bangladesh and Myanmar (Burma) and then into Thailand in the north east and yes I have been told that you cannot travel in Myanmar but I have met many who have do so and if you wish to go to lao you can cross on the bridge in Nongkhai.
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PS , if any one has ideas going this route then please contact me , oh and I have had experience as used to be HGV driver doing middle east and then mainly Turkey and Greece

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Myanmar/Laos/Thailand

Hi Ken001

You've got me intrigued. All my research shows Burma (Myanmar) as pretty well closed, unless on a government (controlled) tour. In other words, not likely to get a visa as an independant traveller. There are roads through China, but interprovince travel isn't always possible (officially), so can't see a readily passable route through to (nice n' easy) Thailand from the top right hand corner of India.

Any further info' you've got on this would be really welcome. I see your up in Merseyside .... Don't suppose you're able to make the October 6th meet North London at the Ace cafe?

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Hi Len
Yes I know that many people say it can't be done but I have been in north Thailand for over 21 years and have met on many occasions riders who have passed through Burma, I have even been inside but only up to 6 Ks as this is all you are allowed to go before needing a visa, many ex-pats do this for shopping but as for bikers I am told if you keep to the main highway then you can pass through from Indian border to Thailand border but if things work out with the present uprising then who knows it may be fully open by next spring. I would love to come to the meeting in London but its getting the time so any chance of closer to Merseyside, what type of bike would you go on I am thinking of a V Strom 1000, also you can go via Athens to Alex and then down to Saudi that way its a very easy route but ferry a little pricy.
please come back with your ideas on this Len.
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hi mate me and my mate are planning trip to singapore from london next june 2008 we are prob gonna get bmw 650 dakars, i am trying to get more info on china as we awnt to go kazakstan china laos thailand,so far all i can find out that it costs about $10000 and have to go thru china travel agent.let me knw anything you find out and ill do same. i am in the states and will prob be comming over to london at xmas to buy bie and make plans. mabey we could meet up. cheers tom
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Hi Tom ....

Welcome to the thread mate. I for one am hoping to vacate these wet n' windy shores for the Xmas break. But will be around again early in the new year. So if you're still here, maybe wecould arrange another meeting then.

As you I'm keen to find out more about travel in China. If I find anything important out will post it on here.

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Myanmar is closed

I´ve heard of only 1 single person, whos made it with a bike into Burma/Myanmar lately, that was some years ago. And he lived in India, spoke the same languages as the Burmese officials, had lots and lots and lots of connections, (and patience!) and was able to negotiate with them for months. And even then he wasnt allowed to cross the whole country, only some parts of it, and freight the bike for the rest. Said the roads were piss poor, too. There was a thread on this at the gt-rider.com forums (2004, maybe?)

And since then, the junta has become even more paranoid, and moved the capital elsewhere etc., so at the moment, just forget that your going to get your bike in there. It aint happening, simple as that. I hope theres going to be a bloodless change of power soon, who knows, maybe its possible with the protests and all, and then the country could, after some time, open to foreigners. Thats just wishful thinking for now...
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October 6th meet

Hi guys ......

Reminder to all the other thread watchers ..... there's a meeting pencilled in for October 6th at the Ace Cafe North West London area.

Anyone else up for it, then get in touch or leave a post ASAP so we can arrange times for comings and goings.

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October meet.

Hey guys - I shall not make the meet but would appreciate an update on peoples plans.
I am working up a route - more a list of places of interest to join together - on behalf of a splinter group that has got together through e-mail and this thread. Once the route is shared, we'll decide which points to join up as we go along. We aim to start in the first week of May 08 when Mick gets his bike shipped in from Oz. Duration is three months. Currently three riders and one pillion.
The route so far is down to Czech, Solvakia, Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia, Russia and then back by either Finland/Norway or Ukraine/Poland depending on time.
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This looks like it will be a fantastic trip.
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Hi Guys ....

I've just sent out an updated spreadsheet with everyone's email address and phone numbers (along with basic travel plans and other relevent info').

Anyone who I've left out (probably cos I don't have an email address for you) and wants it, then pm me.

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I am planning a trip leaving uk late May 2008 travelling through Europe to attempt to enter China and on to Lao and Thailand. Before everyone tells me I know the odds on getting into China are slim !!! but I am prepared to try, anyone else interested?.

Have fun, ride safe !! Jimmy
I worked for a few weeks in Hong Kong at a Landrover Dealership - the only way they could drive there was with a very special permit - possibly not even a standard application form or anything and they felt lucky to be able to do that every couple of years - I think they got special permission from Mayors or some-one higher up (and money) - any way to say you're chinese or delivering the bike or something? Do it all before you go - it will be very hard to do! The general rule is no-one non-chinese can drive there. full stop.
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Hi All, I have arranged meeting for 24/25 November at the Thaiway man pub/restaurant in warrington just off junction 21 of the M6, food is available if required and accommodation is available also. Anyone traveling up from the south can if they wish contact jimmy who will bring then up in his car (share costs) and leave there bike at his house, all are invited so please if you can post a message to confirm your place, looking forward to meeting you all then.
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