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Hi Mate,
I live in eastern Australia , I plan to fly the bike to the UK and spend some time exploring two up with my wife then split somewhere in Europe. She will fly to the US for a family visit and I will motor on East. As far as planning goes I keep things pretty loose and and will travel within the visa windows that I can get. I have no route planned yet but intend on travelling Mongolia up through to Magadan. I will be getting a multi entry visa into Russia.
I have no problem with one or more riders,
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15 Jun 2016
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London to Magadan
Good question on how to move forward.
I have reviewed all posts to date, and suggest that a few upfront things might best be settled first. Some of the posts indicate a good skill level on the bike, and a reasonable knowledge of the roads and what to expect.
1. Choice of route - what countries will be crossed, and outline of main cities/towns. e.g. The Dude has outlined a number of countries but ends in Vladivostok, which might well be OK but probably misses Road of Bones.
2. Degree of difficulty - having seen some reports on the BAM road and the Old Summer Road, I would be hesitant to attempt these even if relatively dry. Whereas I am happy on the dirt, my strong preference would be to take the easier rather than harder tracks where there is a choice.
3. Exit strategy from Magadan - perhaps up to the individual, but options might be - shipping bikes back in which case from where e.g. Vladivostok and how to get there, riding back, selling bikes.
4. Accommodation - preference for camping where possible, or paid accommodation?
Any thoughts on the above?
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1. Choice of route - what countries will be crossed, and outline of main cities/towns. e.g. The Dude has outlined a number of countries but ends in Vladivostok, which might well be OK but probably misses Road of Bones.
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it certainly misses the road of bones as its just too far out of the way when heading to vladivostok. the initial idea was to go to magadan but there simply are no feasible transport options available to canada so vladivostok is pretty much a must wether i like it or not.
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2. Degree of difficulty - having seen some reports on the BAM road and the Old Summer Road, I would be hesitant to attempt these even if relatively dry. Whereas I am happy on the dirt, my strong preference would be to take the easier rather than harder tracks where there is a choice.
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thats another issue. watch the races to places episode where they do the old summer road ... not something i want to attempt on an 1190 ... road of bones itself is a different topic and strongly depends on conditions after winter i reckon.
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3. Exit strategy from Magadan - perhaps up to the individual, but options might be - shipping bikes back in which case from where e.g. Vladivostok and how to get there, riding back, selling bikes.
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only way out(for the bike) is via ship and that also takes a while to get to vladivostok or any other place where you can ship the bike onwards. to me this simply is a time issue. i want to get to prudhoe bay starting in vancouver and then head down to ushuaia in 6-9 months so not to keen on "wasting" time with transport via boat.
ill definitely be heading to south korea from vladivostok via ferry and ship the bike via airfreight from seoul.
as for personal transport you can catch a flight to petropavlovsk and head on to anchorage from there.
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ill camp wherever possible and feasible but in far eastern russia accomodation comes cheap so an actual roof over my head might be an option.
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16 Jun 2016
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Hi guys.
I recently joined this website as I am looking into doing a similar trip from April/May 2017 riding from UK (Midlands) and would like to reach Magadan. I am 34, from Czech Republic (have been living in England for the last 10 years), no children and an understanding girlfriend. I ride a Yamaha XT660Z Tenere. I am a confident and capable rider, also pretty handy with the tools.
Planning to ride through Europe, Turkey, Georgia, Iran (visa dependant), Kazakhstan towards Mongolia, Lake Baikal, BAM to Magadan. Nothing is set in stone, just a rough idea.
Look forward to hearing from you, happy to meet up/skype to discuss ideas.
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16 Jun 2016
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hmm, Visas for Iran a problem for UK citizens ?
Friend of mines whos an OZ citizen just went there a couple of weeks ago and he had no issues getting a border visa.
i know its not an issue for austrians but dunno about UK
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18 Jun 2016
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London to Magadan Proposal
Suggested Route Outline:
England - start London
France - Strasbourg
Switzerland - Bern, Lauterbrunnen
Austria - Innsbruck
Hungary - Budapest
Romania - Brasov, Bucharest
Bulgaria
Turkey - Istanbul, Black Sea Coast, Eezurum
Iran - Tehran, Isfahan
Turkmenistan - Ashgabat, Turkmenabat (transit visa?)
Uzbekistan - Bukhara, Samarkand, Tashkent, Fergana
Kyrgyzstan - Song Kol Lake
Kazakhastan - Almaty
Russia - Novokuznetsk, Irkutsk, Olkhon Island
Mongolia - possibly Khovsgol Lake, Ulaanbataar
Russia - Yakutsk, Ust-Nera, Magadan
All up, probably 25,000km. Details and actual routes to be established - try to go on backroads and dirt where possible. The Compass tour provides some good options on places to visit, but exact routing not known.
If there are alternative outline or detailed routing proposals, or/and some specific places that must be visited, please put them up, as nothing is fixed at this stage.
Flights are available from Magadan to Vladivostok, and from Vladivostok to wherever. A ferry can ship bikes to Vladivostok from Madagan - takes 4 or so days. I understand that you can ship bikes almost anywhere from Vladivostok.
Depart late April early May 2017.
Comments welcome.
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18 Jun 2016
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Russia Vladivostok
Just back from a three 6600 km trip to and through Bulgaria -Black Sea- and back to the Netherlands. Now looking for a trip next year (2017 or maybe 2018) to Vladivostok on the Trans Siberian Highway. I have no experience off road that's why I (54 yrs) choose the Trans Sib. I ride a NC700X.
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Flights are available from Magadan to Vladivostok, and from Vladivostok to wherever. A ferry can ship bikes to Vladivostok from Madagan - takes 4 or so days. I understand that you can ship bikes almost anywhere from Vladivostok.
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the "ship" part is important here. there are no cargo flights from vladivostok that take bikes and the ship takes about a month to get to alaska.
not something im keen on truth be told but it would open up the possibility to visit nepal and the himalayas for a couple of weeks while the bike is underway...hmm...
EDIT: im leaving on the 1.5.2017 at the latest
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If I end up doing it, my main target would be from UK - Ulan Batar in around 60 days. Then make a secondly plan from there.
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R.O.Bones
My biggest decision at the moment is what do I do once I get to Magadan.
Ship the bike and myself do to Vlad and onto South K and home or ride back towards Europe ? What are anyone elses plans .
I think we should start to fine tune some departing dates and arrival dates to Madadan, that way we could start to look into visa's and shipping etc.. ideas.
I also have the option of starting in Magadan and ending in Europe but riding with a few other humans sounds like more fun .
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I love the idea of riding from magadan back to Europe. It makes sense on so many levels. Fresh bike, no need to carry as many spares, no time limit as you're riding from one summer into a much milder autumn etc.
I wonder why it's not so popular.
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Hi guys. Magadan back to uk 2017 sounds good. Whats the system of getting bikes to magadan
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22 Jun 2016
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My biggest decision at the moment is what do I do once I get to Magadan.
Ship the bike and myself do to Vlad and onto South K and home or ride back towards Europe ? What are anyone elses plans .
I think we should start to fine tune some departing dates and arrival dates to Madadan, that way we could start to look into visa's and shipping etc.. ideas.
I also have the option of starting in Magadan and ending in Europe but riding with a few other humans sounds like more fun .
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Once I get to Magadan, I would be shipping the bike home and getting a flight back to the UK as I can't afford any more time away from home or work. I'm hoping to get the whole trip done in around 10 weeks.
I would be interested in doing it in reverse and starting in Magadan. At least we and the bikes would be fresh. It would also mean that the group starts together for the rough and remote stuff and give the option to split up once this section has been done.
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Magadan to London
I am OK doing the trip from Magadan to London rather than the original proposal London to Magadan.
There seem to be 4 others who would do the trip in this direction - Hammertime, Touring Ted, Horseman66 and Clive50.
As I understand it, bikes would need to be shipped to Vladivostok, and then to Magadan. Riders can fly from Vladivostok to Magadan.
I suggest a departure from Magadan on Monday 15 May 2017.
My suggested route is the reverse of the one I posted earlier. However, I can see that some may want more challenging choices such as the BAM and OSR, and some are time limited. It seems possible that these can be accommodated to some extent, but it would be worthwhile knowing in advance just what others really must do.
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I won't know if I can commit to anything until December/Jan.
This brexit situation has created turmoil for my business and future plans.
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