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  #31  
Old 15 Jan 2017
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Crossing Myanmar

Hello Everyone
I have found this thread today and am interested to know how you got on with a Thai permit Barbara and Kevin? We are currently in Laos trying to get a permit to travel through Thailand in February for a week as we are fairly sure that if they give us a permit we will need a guide. We have approached an agency about a guide for Myanmar but have not heard back from then as yet. Again we would like to go through in a week as we have to have a guide.

We came through China to Laos last year as the border with Nepal has been closed since April 2015, unless they have reopened it recently. We are now wondering how to get out of Laos! Two of the couples we travelled through China with have been refused a permit.
What dates are you planning to go into Myanmar?

A couple have posted on this thread that they plan to go into China from Nepal, is the border open for foreigners, it wasn't last year which is why we are in Laos.

My email is sue@nworth.co.uk if that is easier than the thread.

Hope to hear from you
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If you are planning to apply to cross Thailand now, then yes you will have a guide imposed upon you. The best source of info on the subject is here https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024579897597702/ Join, read and be prepared to be depressed. Sorry to be so glum. But S.E.A. is now just to much of a pain in the backside.

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Thailand

Thank you Graeme, I have just tried to email you but had it returned. Have you managed to get a permit for Thailand? Do you know if others on this thread have got one. We applied in December and are waiting to hear but are not overly optimistic! Are you forming a group to go through Thailand or only Myanmar. We have applied for a week for each to reduce costs but would extend the time if we found a group to go with.
My email is sue@nworth.co.uk if you want to reply by email
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Hello,

With a friend we want to drive with our own car from Europe towards South East Asia. We need to pass China our Myanmar. Both countries are expensive to travel trough with an own car. So we are looking for other travelers that want to drive with their own car trough China or Myanmar. (Only travelers that have their own car)

We would like to pass trough China in the beginning of May. If we travel trough Myanmar we would like to do this around the beginning of June. If anyone is or wants to traveling one of these countries in the same period as we do, please send me a message. The more cars that travel trough China or Myanmar at the same time the less money it is going to cost.

My mail is nickrogmans@hotmail.com.

Looking forward to hear from you.

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Nick Rogmans
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Hello,

With a friend we want to drive with our own car from Europe towards South East Asia. We need to pass China our Myanmar. Both countries are expensive to travel trough with an own car. So we are looking for other travelers that want to drive with their own car trough China or Myanmar. (Only travelers that have their own car)

We would like to pass trough China in the beginning of May. If we travel trough Myanmar we would like to do this around the beginning of June. If anyone is or wants to traveling one of these countries in the same period as we do, please send me a message. The more cars that travel trough China or Myanmar at the same time the less money it is going to cost.

My mail is nickrogmans@hotmail.com.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Kind Regards,

Nick Rogmans
Hey Nick,
It's probably best to start your own thread because otherwise people won't find it!
Jason
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Hey sue,

It looks like the guided tour rules will start to take effect as of March. Anything after will require a guide. Graeme and I will be some of the last people to travel unguided with a foreign motorcycle in Thailand
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Graeme,

In the end I'm looking for more time in northern Thailand (I enter on the 28th of February) so I'll see if I can find a crossing on a later date. If I can't then I'll try to join you guys but I'm not sure. I got some interesting responses so far. One company said the government isn't offering permits anymore and it won't be possible...

Jason
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Cheers Juiced, appreciate that. I too would have preferred a little longer in Thailand. But there was a group of us all cross from Australia together 5 months ago, we've travelled mostly independently thus far. But we compromised and will all cross Myanmar together. We are looking at crossing into Thailand on the 27th. Perhaps our paths will cross.

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Hey Graeme,
After looking around it seems that my best option is to join you guys. I contacted them and got a quote for $830. Does that seem right?

Jason
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Great to hear that you are onboard Juiced. Yep that sounds about right. Actually I was quoted $850 US. So maybe there are now more than 6 doing the trip across. The rest of the "crew" are all overlanders on m/bikes that crossed over from Australia to Timor Leste back in October.

Do you expect to be in Chang Mai the week prior to crossing? If so we will catch up then.

Graeme
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Juiced/Jason, one more question. What are your intentions after India? We are looking at crossing over the KKH into China around late June. If you intentions are similar, we could possibly have the beginnings of a group.

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Graeme.
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Juiced/Jason, one more question. What are your intentions after India? We are looking at crossing over the KKH into China around late June. If you intentions are similar, we could possibly have the beginnings of a group.

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Graeme.
Hey Graeme, I've got a group of 2 on motorbikes looking at crossing China around 21 June.
Have some reasonable quotes

Cheers

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Thailand crossing

Can somebody please forward the documents that suggest you will need a guide in Thailand?

The documentation i have from the department of land transport does not mention this anywhere!!


Cheers

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Myanmar crossing.

If anybody is looking to cross Myanmar around mid April, I am happy to join in.

Thailand-Myanmar-India

Also Pakistan-China-Kyrgystan.
Entering China around 20 June.

I have a group of 2 bikes for China section.


Cheers


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Hey Graeme, I've got a group of 2 on motorbikes looking at crossing China around 21 June.
Have some reasonable quotes

Cheers

Spiro
KTM 620, that fits pretty close with our plans, we were maybe going to be a week or so later. I'm assuming you mean over the KKH out of Pakistan, 4days/3nights in China, then Kashgar and into Kyrgyzstan. email gpdotkldotperkinsatgmail.com Obviously substitute the dot(s) and at.

You will unfortunately definitely need a guide, If you don't enter Thailand prior to the 1st March. The best and latest info can be found here. You don't say where you are from. The ONLY exceptions are if you are a citizen from an ajoing country, ie Laos, Cambodia or Malaysia https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024579897597702/

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