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riding in china
hi there,
i'm just start to get in trouble with the china leg of my trip. i've planned to reach torugart at least on august 18 2010. but i'm already in touch with hassles before leaving. some local agencies, send me a quote about a 4 days trip from torugart to khunjerab. they say you must to pay for guide, for car driver, chinese licence & plate, and all the f++++ng rest. the cheapest quote they sent me is 1.200 Euro. they also told me the main expenses are for the bike paperwork not for the guide exc... i've subsequently asked for a different quote regarding an alternative route from kulma pass (tajikstan to china border northbound of tashkorgan). it would be a 200km stretch only to do in china. some says that border is for chinese & tajik citizens only, another one just ask me 1000 Euro to do that probably in a day... so, i'm thinking to look for a truck at the border, pick up the bike on it and try to get through and see what happen.
last but not least: shipping me & the bike from dushambè to islamabad. i do not think it will be more expensive than the chinese rip off...
otherwise, i'm always looking for who's planning to do the same thing on the same period, to share the costs and the riding.
i'm here!
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I have recieved quotes from several tour operators in china for north south & east west routes for 6-10 riders. No way could I get the price bellow US$6500, and that did not include accomodation or meals. Personaly I wish the monied well off would stop paying these prices and China was boycotted until such time as the government and tour operators became reasonable about allowing people to travel there.
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given that the cheapest quote found thus far is approx 1200 Euros, are we to assume that THIS is the figure that would get divided up amongst a group that decided to make the short crossing from the Stans to Pakistan via Kashgar?....
I'm sure there are plenty of more experienced members looking in on this thread who might be be able to shed more light on this from their own experience.....
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27 Nov 2009
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We did the route from Kyrgyzstan - Pakistan in 5 days this year. we were 4 bikes (including one scooter) and one 4wd. It cost us $550 each. And you will probably find that for each additional person they add more money, so you won't be dividing one lump sum between you.
You can read the details on my website here:
Message Board - China
There are also several threads on the HUBB with all the details on it. I would recommend zyztours, who we used, as they were easily the cheapest. BUT, and it's a big but, you must remember they are not a tour guide, rather an government escort. Do not expect the China leg to be that enjoyable if you have already come from Europe without an escort.
Good luck on whatever you decide
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Transit China Costs
Thanks for all the current info and advice. It seems that as a minimum $100 per day is it...Given a North South transit is 20 days thats $2000 in fees plus daily living expenses...as an add on cost, for what would be a journey of a lifetime, I feel its bearable ... If that means I am one of those monied people that are ruining it for everyone else, well to put it into perspective. I have never smoked, visit the pub once a week, service my own bike and dont have sky TV. I reckon I am still in credit lol. Each to their own...Nice to see the thread creating so much interest..
Have fun...Jimmy
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I remember paying 1000 USD total for those surveillance guards back in 2004,from Shenzen (Honk Kong) to the mongolese border. That was for 4 weeks of travel (roughly 35 USD/day), feeling like staying in a train sit on a motorcycle. We were about 20 riders in the group, heading to Moscow.
Looks like the fees have tripled in 5 years.
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Re the $35 a day....
Hi, I note it was some time ago...can you remember the agency that organised the trip?.
Thanks Jimmy
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Originally Posted by dnicoletti
|i've subsequently asked for a different quote regarding an alternative route from kulma pass (tajikstan to china border northbound of tashkorgan). it would be a 200km stretch only to do in china. some says that border is for chinese & tajik citizens only, another one just ask me 1000 Euro to do that probably in a day... so, i'm thinking to look for a truck at the border, pick up the bike on it and try to get through and see what happen.
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Will be interesting to see your efforts. As far as I know Kulma Pass is for Chinese&Tajik citizens... Every year I hear they will open it for rest of the world...
By the way - maybe it is the time to make a kind of appeal to the Chinese government to open normal, legal and easy ( I mean free of ton of documents) route to Pakistan? From Kulma to Khunjarab it is only 200 km! And only one ugly but easy to navigate city Tashkurgan...
Let's try to open northern way to India avoiding "unstable" Afghanistan...
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