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Curious you say the Algerian Sahara hasn't been travelled by people in their own 4x4's for a long time when its simply not true.

The relevant sub-forum has details of people who have travelled the region over the last few years and both Geko Expeditions and Acacia Aventura regularly run tours there for similar prices.
No one has crossed the Sahara with his/her own vehicle for the past ten years. I am not talking about going down South on tarmac, that has always been feasible. No tour operator has run self-drive tours in Algeria with a true desert crossing over that time either.

If you look at Geko´s itinerary, you'll see that they travel on tarmac to Djanet and do a loop in the Tassili..which is something entirely different to what is proposed here. Their rates are w/o ferry and visa, i.e. there is at least 1.3k on top of what you see. Comparing apples with pears is not helpful.

I can assure you, it is impossible to run a commercial tour for 4x4´s over 3weeks in DZ for 2.5k. If you can do that, you are in business, big time, there is strong interest from Italy, France and the German speaking countries.

@Chris..you might want to open your eyes and ears. I witnessed animosity towards yourself: you brought your bike to a 4x4 show in the UK, quite a number of folks were commenting: "what does he want here on his bike?" And that was not said in a curious way.

Another incident I saw on a motorway on the continent: a car cuts across a bike, the biker accelerates and kicks off the far side mirror of the car with his foot whilst overtaking on the wrong side. A friendly gesture ? Maybe not.

That aside, the animosity was not my idea, a lot has been written about it and studies carried out, just one example:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...01457518301854

If you search the web, you'll find plenty about the topic. It could help to stop that wishful thinking and face the facts instead.
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